You really are out of your mind with claiming the Jim Crow era had equality. It was full fletched apartheid rule. You make it sound it was 5000 years ago. 52 years is nothing. Trump fully benefited personally from Jim Crow laws. And all his gains are being passed on to the next generation.
You must have me confused with someone else. I never claimed (?) "the Jim Crow era had equality". Where did I write that...? On the contrary, I wrote that this country unfairly mistreated Blacks right up through 1945, and segregation (not 'apartheid') was legal. All that was struck completely down in the mid-1960's, as I said. Don't take my word for it... google it up! There's a ton of reading material there, and there's a wealth of insight to be gained by examining the Federal Government's "Small Business Set-Aside" programs in contracting that excludes everyone but select groups (almost entirely minority-owned and woman-owned) from even being able to submit bids. Millions upon millions of dollars are literally "set-aside" every year in this example of Reverse-Discrimination that never makes "the news"! But, I've found some newer information about Blacks and welfare, and I really should post a revision: Blacks make up 13.8% of the population of the U. S. (not 13.4% as I wrote earlier), and, they receive 39.8% of the government's handout welfare (not the 34% I cited earlier). Link: http://www.statisticbrain.com/welfare-statistics/ Lastly, I didn't write the history. Fifty-two years is fifty-two years, regardless of your opinion of it, and in modern times even one year can bring a great deal of change -- both good and bad. Slavery was abolished in this country 152 years ago! Blacks have been fully integrated in every legal sense for at least 52 years, as I said. If they are so "impoverished" today, in 2017, whose fault is that?! Especially after being given one form of 'preference' after another, and "affirmative action" since the early 1970's?! Discrimination, either AGAINST, or FOR, anyone should be made flatly illegal everywhere and in everything -- including university acceptance, AND, government contracts! . How many more decades will it be before more Blacks accept what he said...?
Afro-American? What in the heck is that? . . . Anyway, Affirmative Action was not about undoing the American Apartheid System called Jim Crow. Statistically speaking, those who benefited from Affirmative Action the most are: White Women, Jews, and Homosexuals, look it up is you do not believe what have typed, this is the dirty little secret of Affirmative Action. Besides, it is like Pollycy stated yesterday, Affirmative Action implies explicitly that Black people are incapable of doing for self. I know that many Black people champion AA, many Black people champion several things that are not necessarily beneficial to Black people as a whole. Source: http://ideas.time.com/2013/06/17/affirmative-action-has-helped-white-women-more-than-anyone/ Source: http://hlrecord.org/2012/10/affirmative-action-benefits-white-people/ Source: http://observer.com/2017/08/affirmative-action-trump-administration/
That segregation was apartheid. Please don't be such a ***** and demand this lefty PC correctness by sticking to words that don't hit peoples feelings. Lets call it as it is. And the unfair treatment by law was not right up through 1945 as you claimed, but mid 1960's as you said. But that is according to law. You don't change a culture with a signature on a piece of paper. Oh don't make me laugh. People were as racist the day before it got signed as the moment after it was signed. That is because for centuries on end, the US government deliberately impoverished the entire black community through law. Your idea that there can not be any sign of this after only 52 years, is just jaw dropping stupid. When a person in 1960 went to a segregated school that was "equal" to that of a white school... ends up with a low end job, that pays low, so is housed poorly, and has children. Than how exactly does 1 passing year change anything for that child in a poor house hold? It doesn't do a thing! While some white person was able to get a nice job at the expense of that black person, and now is able to provide for it's kids much better,... and is able to send it's kids to better school and college. That is where affirmative action kicks in. The damage the Arians and Jews did with their apartheid simply rampages through generations. Seeing how many Americans were utterly racist against Barak Obama.... and how little to nothing has been done to correct the centuries of wrongs.... you'll be looking at centuries.
Uh indeed. The black community got pushed into severe poverty for centuries. And you need a lot of money to get a good education to get a good job. So yeah... we all know that one guy who got lucky... this is how on average it works out. We can't all get in the NBA by "working hard".
You've made many sweeping statements, and have not bothered to support ANY of them with factual information. . Whether you accept what I've provided or not (and evidently you don't), I tried. Moreover, I LIVED it... I'm an old guy. I remember discrimination against Black people, the marches, the riots, the murders, and all the ugly parts of it. I never said that the change in this country was 'instantaneous' -- but, I stated the chronological FACT that discrimination of all kinds ENDED legally 52 years ago! Surely not even you will try to dispute that, because it IS a fact. You might be surprised, though, to know that as a young man I joined with many thousands of other WHITE Americans and marched in the streets in favor of Civil Rights, and against segregation. A few years after that, I was myself a victim of "affirmative action".... Cut to the chase -- given that 'affirmative action' and discrimination in FAVOR of minorities has been legal in this country since the early 1970's, how much longer do Black people 'need' this CRUTCH?! How many more decades will Blacks be whining and bitching about "discrimination" after it officially ENDED 52 years ago?! How many more generations of Blacks are going to be bottom-feeders because White, liberal, Socialist-Democrats have cultured these people to think that they can't do any better than to wallow around in the desparing pits of handout welfare? If I were Black, I would think that is the most insulting part of the whole thing!
notme, as Pollycy has already pointed out to you, in the United States there was never a social/societal initiative called Apartheid, that was in South Africa. Inn these United States, there was and I firmly believe, that there still is a societal/Social initiative called Jim Crow. Jim Crow laws and initiative came about in the year 1877 and did not officially end until the 1980s in certain parts of the Northeastern United States. I know this because one of my brothers-in-law told me about his personal experiences with segregation in Brooklyn, New York. There is there is this myth going around about segregation only being implemented in the Southeastern United States when in all actuality is was all over these United States of [North] America. Check out what took place in California, yes Liberal California, during segregation. On the other hand, from circa 1934 to 1975, there was a call to Black people in this country to clean up, unify and build for self. There was eve other calls calling for the same. As far as i am concerned, there is not legitimate excuse for us, Black people, who are the children of the former slaves of North America, namely these United States to not have independence in 2017. The only reasoning behind this failure has to do with laziness. Before "the end" of segregation, Black people had businesses, schools, farms, etc. We had all that we needed for Independence, then along came a spider (Serpent) and whispered sweet nothings in our collective ears, and we are now more dependent upon others, as we were during chattel slavery. So Affirmative Action, "the voters' rights act", the "civil rights act" has done nothing and were obviously non-essential because of the 14th amendment to the Constitution for these United States. It is all hokum and a big display of nothingness, wrapped with futility. Nothing this, what was and is the real intention of Civil Rights, Affirmative Action, and all of the other "social programs" from government. It is obvious that we are in a house where we are not wanted, so keep on wasting time hoping, and dreaming. By the way, when you dream you have to be asleep. If you are adept with our history in these United States, you should know these things already.
AGREED! Little Miss Muffet, sat on her tuffet, eating her curds and whey. . . THEN ALONG CAME A SPIDER (SERPENT) AND SAT DOWN BESIDE HER AND SCARED LITTLE MISS MUFFET AWAY! Sometimes childhood tales and nursery rhymes teach under a cloak. Father Divine, Noble Drew Ali, Messenger Elijah Muhammad, and so many others, spoke of Independence (economic, socially, etc). Somehow, these men are intentionally ignored in favor of the "beggar's Lot'.
You are in serious need of reading lessons since I have repeatedly condemned discrimination while those of you on the far right continually side step the issue of conventional discrimination. No surprise that you continually make such projections as that is par for the course on this forum.
Mr_Truth, you are not telling me anything that I do not already know. My parents, as well as their parents, and so and so forth, lived through all of that evil, and I refuse to live through any longer, which is why I am the way that I AM! Te Black Codes ARE NOT APARTHEID. You are mixing apples and oranges. What took place in these here States, was much worse than Apartheid;. Heck my parents had to literally walk in puddles if the sidewalk was too narrow and White people were walking on the same sidewalk. If a Black person was wearing expensive clothing and a White person demanded them they had to strip down and give those clothes to the White person. Looking a White person in the eyes was also forbidden. Black men where lynched because of the accusation of a White female, etc. Meanwhile, those of the younger generations and the newer people, tend to live according to every negative stereotype that there is about us, and you all do it with PRIDE. You all LOVE using the N*GGER word and even allow other people to use that word, but when I was growing up, the word was strictly forbidden in ever Black home that I ever visited. I guess you all are better. VIEW: then get back to me: http://www.noiwc.org/images/blackpowercartoon.pdf
You just do not have sufficient understanding of the issue and that is why you make this claim. The matter of comparisons between Jim Crow/Black Codes and Apartheid have been discussed on college campuses and lectures for several decades. Here is but one example: https://prezi.com/mllyoy_xpebx/apartheid-and-segregation/ You may Google for more examples which prove that the tyrannical government of South Africa learned from the examples created by the Southern USA states. Your denial of this documented fact proves your lack of knowledge on this subject.
It is one hiding in sheep's clothing. It's called disparate outcomes and how to avoid them so the Feds don't sue you.
So if there is not a quota of blacks or women they have to hire more blacks and women instead of whites?
I think what you fail to realize Mr_Truth is that what you are proposing is tantamount too slavery as well as admitting that you have no desire to do things on your own. I know, MLK Jr. ad the whole integration gig, too bad that that plan is asking to be a slave again, and guess what? If you are admitting that you want to be a slave, you have no right to complain about how you are treated. Slaves have no say in their affairs.
Laughable. A condemnation of Black Codes/Jim Crow/Apartheid is viewed as promoting slavery. That is the single most laughably pathetic comment I have ever seen in this forum. I will save your comment and nominate it for POST OF THE YEAR because it is so utterly senseless and laughable.
Apartheid rule applied to all black people at all time. Affirmative action only gives a few black people a chance. We're not even passed 1 generation and you're already wining. OMG... lol
When you got policies about racial segregation by law, than you get to call it apartheid. So get over it already. Neah mate. When you're a minority and the bulk of the country is discriminating you, than you're just doomed. It's purely the fault of the apartheid rule installed by the Arians and Jews. Heck, even banks discriminated black people financially all the way till the 21 century. You blaming the victim is just utterly and utterly nuts.
College Campuses and lectures for decades; typical Liberal adaptation to hide their complicity in the continuation of the subjugation of Black people. It is because of the mental death that the Liberals have concocted for Black people, why too many Black people have failed themselves and their children for 152 years (after slavery) and 42 years (after the Messenger) listening to people whose goal is the nullification of, as J. Edgar Hoover stated, the new Black Messiah. This was planned and contrived in stopping the rise of independence of Black people as a whole from the bounds of dependency. What do you think "The Great Society" was all about? What about the Counter Intelligence Program (CoIntelPro) of the FBI? It is about maintaining the dependency cycle of Black people on the same people who have aided in putting us in the miserable condition that we are in. You said it yourself, that it is the Corporate Boards, which is exactly right, so why on Earth would you choose to rely on the same people for employment and the like? It seems to me to be a situation of cutting off your nose to spite your face. All of the money that is spent on getting drunk, being high on narcotics and the like could be used instead for our independence, but you all want to follow "the in crowd" sufficiently making asses out of yourselves. Then you have the other counterproductive behaviors that are all too prevalent among us, as a whole. Either you are serious about coming out of the misery, or not. Crap or get off of the pot.
I am over it, which is why I want away from it. I have wasted enough time as it is tolerating the behaviors of those in positions of power who have the aim, purpose and goal of making my life a living hell, just because they can do it. If you want to continue playing footsie and tag with them, be my guest. I refuse to accept the it. 462 years is enough.
