after today we are at 7..how many more??

right now we have 7 hopefuls climb aboard the GOP Clown car

1. Dummy j Trump
2, Asa Hutchinson
3. Nikki Haley
4. Tim Scott
5. Vivek Ramaswamy
6. Larry Elder
7, Ron desantos ..announcing tonight on twitter with Elon Musk endorsement

when arriving at the circus how many clowns will crawl out of the GOP car??

8. Pence
9. Pompeo
10.Suninu
11. Noem
12 Younkin
13. Cheney
14, Christy
15 Abbott
16. Bolton
17. Cruz
18 Rubio
19. R Scott
20.???

in 2016 there were 20...my guess is in 2024 there will also be 20

what are your
guesses??

 

I think Pompeo, Pence and Christy from that list are going to run

I hope Cheney runs, but she won't run as a Republican if she's smart, she won't do well with the primary electorate.

Manchin/Cheney would be a good ticket, even though I'm a flaming liberal and would probably hate most of what they say. It would at least give us some stability and help fight extremism which has been taking over our politics.

 

I considered adding Manchins name to the list ..

His seat is being challenged by the current governor named “Jim Justice”..who is extremely popular in WV

Manchin be so far down in the polls against Justice he will drop out and run for president with Justices endorsement ..

how can a guy named “Jim Justice “ lose in a state like West Virginia??

 

we are missing few more great Republican - Tucker Carlson, Sara Palin and Karri Lake . They are not RINO like Pence or Bolton.

 

The more that run, the easier that it is for Trump

GOP primaries will have no drama

 

Who cares... the only one I'll be voting for is Donald Trump.

 

Agreed completely. Keep 'em comin', boys! Still voting Trump at the end of the day... You're only splitting your own vote...

There will still be drama... the RNC will make sure of it. Regardless, I'm still voting for Trump.

 

Drama in what way? Trump will win the nomination in a landslide

 

Drama between the primary candidates, not drama that anyone else even has a lick of a chance of beating Trump in the primary.

 

And you do realize that Trump will lose the general election don’t you? His name is totally toxic to many voters. He’ll take a lot of down ballot Republicans down with him too, just as he did 2022. His endorsements were mostly a kiss of death.

I will have to vote for him because the alternative will be Biden or Newsom. The only good thing about Newsom will be that Harris will have to go. The president and vice president can’t come from the same state according to the constitution.

 

We are heading to a recession later this year, even if the debt ceiling does get resolved in time

If the Dems are going to run Biden, Trump can win, but the GOP is taking a big risk running him

As you said, you will vote for Trump over Biden even though you don't like Trump. Millions will do the same

 

It’s hard to believe that Biden won’t have a major challenger in the Democrat primaries. His poor approval ratings, in normal times, would enough to attract at least one. Newsom really wants the nomination, and he’s been prepping for it with that visit to the Oval Office when Biden was on the road.

The Hunter Biden scandal would be enough to finish off old Joe in normal times. Other presidents have had wayward relatives, but they kept them at arm’s length. Richard Nixon had his brother, Donald, and Jimmy Carter had brother Billy who took money from the Lydian dictator, Muammar Gaddafi.

Biden has had Hunter as a White House guest, taken him to Ireland with and said “He’s proud of him.” Maybe some Democrats will let the Hunter Biden investigation proceed, or tell old Joe that Hunter will be in hot water if he insists on running again.

 

I don’t know about the recession part. The government can cook the books and say it didn’t happen. We had one earlier. By definition, two straight quarters of economic decline is a recession. We had that, but the Democrats said it wasn’t true, and press backed them up, of course.

The people can say they are hurting and aren’t happy, but when they go to the polls, they vote Democrat. The 2022 results were an eye opener. Politics is not what it once was. A political party can have things go bad and still elect bad candidates like Fetterman

 

Justice will have to get his party's nomination first and despite being rich, he is a freshly minted "republican" and probably will come down left of democrat Manchin. WV politics are thorny, especially on the right. I wouldn't assume Justice is the defacto nominee yet.

 

Actually, the complete opposite is true. Trump is the only R candidate with any chance of winning in the general. He is the only R candidate even trying to compete against the D's ballot harvesting operation.

The "never Trump" crowd is MUUUUUCH smaller than the "Trump only" crowd. Without the "never Trump" crowd, MAGA can still win a tough fight against the D's ballot harvesting machine. Without the "Trump only" crowd, R's will 100% guaranteed lose because MONEY is their ideology.

Trump wasn't on the ballot in 2022. What are you even talking about?

... and DeSaster's endorsements have been...??? Winners?? hahahahaha DeSaster's latest endorsement in KY finished in 3rd place... Trump's endorsement in that same race finished in 1st place.

Trump's endorsements have mostly been boons. Heck, DeSaster himself only became "Top Gov" because of Trump's endorsement. Some of Trump's endorsements boost candidates 20+ points overnight. Hardly a "kiss of death"...

And this is precisely what I mean by the "Trump only" crowd being MUCH bigger than the "never Trump" crowd... While Trump isn't your first choice, you'll still vote for him in the general anyway. Meanwhile, if Trump isn't in the general, I will be writing in Trump's name (IOW, I'm one of the MANY "Trump only" votes). People such as myself want some representation in government, and the Democrat/Republican Uniparty is not it. That's why the populist MAGA exists.

 

Boebert, MTG, Matt Gaetz, Madison Cawthorn and Paul Gosar will probably run too.

 

It's okay. I realize that you are an "only Trumper" and if he doesn't get the nomination, you will probably stay home, unless Trump runs as a third party candidate, which he might will do.

And both are minorities who have no chance of winning unless they unite.

Trump endorsed senate candidates in Arizona, Pennsylvania and Nevada, and we lost them all. All of them were winnable if Trump had kept his big mouth out of it. The loss in Pennsylvania was especially gulling. Dr. Oz proved that he is unelectable. He lost to the worst candidate imaginable. If Trump had stayed out of the primary race, we could have an electable candidate.

Trump lost my wife and I by his actions on January 6. Why in hell did he have that stupid rally? The election was over; the results were cast in stone as much as they could be. Trump was not going to change the result. All he did was whip up the crowd for no good reason. The result was the move on the Capitol which gave the Democrats and unreasonable Never Trump Republicans at reason to divert attention from the riots of the summer of 2020 and hold their stupid January 6 star chamber.

If Trump had had any sense, he should have seen by the end of November 2020 that overturning the results in the courts was impossible. Like Andrew Jackson in 1825 who began preparing for the 1828 election, he should begun organizing for the 2024 election and dropped the 2020 protests.

But no. Like a spoiled child, Trump keeps going on and on about how he was robbed in 2020 to no one's benefit.

Yes, if Trump is nominated as a Republican in 2024, I will vote for him with no enthusiasm just as I did for George H. W. Bush in 1992. A lot of other Republicans will feel the same, and that will result in a lot of no shows. That will equal a Democrat victory.

If Trump doesn't get the nomination and rules as a third party candidate, like a spoiled child, I will dislike him for the rest of my life. He and Biden will be cut from the same cloth. That will show that he cares more about himself and his huge ego, just like Biden, than the welfare of the people of the United States.

 

... and I wasn't even an only Trumper until after the 2016 election and I started seeing real economic results that benefitted me... and saw that a President actually CAN stay out of endless foreign wars... and that our southern border actually CAN be secured... and that manufacturing jobs actually CAN come back... and that wages actually CAN increase faster than inflation...

Then seeing how the R's are right in bed with the D's on economic and foreign policies (and seeing how manipulated and based on false pretenses the DeSaster campaign is) further sealed the "only Trump" deal for me. The R Party needs to go the way of the Whigs and be replaced by MAGA...

 

So it's Republican Clown Car VS Democratic Dementiamobile?

 

He gained me even more after that, as he's actually fighting the corrupt system. Election integrity is worth fighting for, and losing election integrity means losing the country to a Uniparty oligarchy that doesn't serve We The People. 2020 was simply the climax of that, in which the fraud system was overwhelmed and HAD to come out into the open and perform a coup in order to re-gain the status quo.

 

You can't run a party based around one man. That's especially true when he's going to be 78 years old in 2024.

The Whigs had Henry Clay, but they only won presidential elections with two old generals, William Henry Harrison and Zachary Taylor. The Whigs disappeared because the glue that held them together was a mutual hatred for Andrew Jackson.



When he was gone, the problem was the party had two pieces. The "Continence Whigs” were against or having second thoughts about slavery. The “Cotton Whigs” were all for it. Obviously, a party that differed on that issue could not survive.

The Republican Party grew out of the ashes of the Whig Party plus a number of Democrats and independents who wanted to save the Union and curtail or end slavery. If you think that a divisive figure like Trump can put together a coalition like that and form a new party, I think you are overly optimistic.

You need someone with Trump's goals and views without the drama. Drama sounds good to the true believers, but does not work well in winning national elections.

 

Of course there needs to be a future leader for the MAGA movement after Trump, but the present leader is Trump. MAGA is the only "working class" opposition to the "elitist" Democrat/Republican Uniparty.

 

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The House investigation is going after Joe and his family.

 

Can I just ask why Manchin/Cheney would be a good ticket? Are you saying Biden et al aren't NeoCon enough or war mongering enough for you?