Can’t get a more desperate situation than at the Kabul airport. People were tossing babies over the wall. They were killing themselves in the press of humanity. Here’s a perfect microcosm of whether a wall could work if built and manned properly. I’ve been told that walls don’t work. So Im naturally confused how the most desperate of people can’t get past little more than a 15 foot high wall with some barbed wire on top. It ain’t for lack of numbers. It’s almost like…walls…work…. which would explain why we use them in virtually every situation we want to stop a persons access through. My mind. Is blown. …or would be if the special magical properties of our southern border that render all walls worthless weren’t true. But the magic is definitely real down there.
If you have time to do some research, check trump's wall here in Arizona and how well it stood up to rain. Google is your friend.
That has nothing to do with the idea that walls work. and more to do with a poorly constructed wall. you...knew that right? lol
Are the walls around airports 3000 miles long? LOL! The airport problem is many orders of magnitude simpler. It isn't the walls that work. Its all the guy with guns. Without them the wall is worthless.
Looks like someone doesn’t know what “microcosm” means.. And no, guys with guns don’t make it work. Nobody is going to shoot these people if they force their way in. Get real
Proof positive of the magic of our southern lands. Walls literally disintegrate before our eyes. There’s nothing we can do about it. Case closed. Thanks
Actually, it looked to me as it worked as designed. Kind of like crumple zones on a car, when stressed, the panels gave way which is easy to repair instead of the whole wall being pushed over. Pretty good design if you ask me.
People these days don't want to face facts; they want to believe facts that are congruous with the position they hold. This is intellectual dishonesty, with oneself. Walls obviously can deter people from crossing. There are ways around walls but they are harder. When things get harder, that does deter many people who otherwise would have not been deterred. Government buildings have walls, prisons have walls, heck, even former President Obama had a wall constructed around his house for security reasons.
To what? The airport wall working or the magic that makes a southern wall on our border not work, or a link to the definition of microcosm since some people here don’t know it, or Zelda a Link to the Past video game? be specific.
Do the math. Look at the costs that would be involved in building, maintaining and manning a wall thousands of miles long. After that, take a look at how most drugs and illegal immigrants actually get here. Then tell the class how the con man's wall would be a worthwhile investment.
How about both? A border fence/wall/whatever that protects the perimeter and people and/or drones to man it. We face a chasm where the liberal side of America is simply weak on national security and I don't know why that is.
We could do that, but the topic of conversation is specifically walls working or not working. I was told specifically by Democrats high and low: walls don’t work. Not that they aren’t worthwhile or too costly, that, specifically, they don’t stop people. so given that this is the subject as outlined in the OP, how about we first tackle this particular issue before expanding it to the larger issue of illegal immigration?
Walls indeed do not work. But of course, you do have to go a little beyond that one short sentence to have a modicum of understanding of the full reality, because the statement that walls don't work refers specifically to the matter of securing a border thousands of miles long with many points of entry at ground level and, what you really won't like, infinite possibilities for going over, under or around.
Those walls have electronics on them that alert personnel when they are banged on, dug around, or climbed. They are monitored 24/7. Its the easiest part of the system.
So short walls work but long walls don’t, because at some non-specific point between the two definitions, the ability of the strongest country in the world with a population of 350 million people and all its resources and technology is rendered helpless before the might of poor, oppressed people who have virtually no resources whatsoever. And we know this from…what exactly? So 3,000 miles is too long. What’s doable in your mind? 2000? 1000? 500? Meanwhile that same might of poor helpless people to which we are powerless against you were all set on downplaying the significance of in order to make the case that the costs to maintain the wall weren’t worth the cost these people bring to us. They are both mighty and insignificant exactly as they need to be to fit your arbitrary narrative of long and short wall doctrine. How completely bizarre
you’re right. Weird cause I remember double checking it to make sure it was political opinions when I made the thread. Apologies once again
