al-Qaeda seizes village that still speaks the ancient language of Christ

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  1. Jeannette

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    I'm Greek Orthodox with connections to that part of the world. I know of the persecutions under the Sunni governments and the ethnic cleansings which have occurred in the past, and which continue to occur throughout the area. Syria was the land the Assyrian Christians escaped to so they wouldn't be killed by the Turks, and the place that took in the surviving Armenians. Is this what the U.S., Britain and France want, to have these people run out of Syria out of fear of being massacred by the same animals...once again?

    We should give credit to Assad for being able to hold the Sunnis at bay, and from keeping their foreign terrorists and mercenaries from taking control of Syria and committing the very same crimes on minorities which have been committed and are still being committed in the neighboring countries. As for the U.S. and people like McCain, one has to wonder if he is on some kind of payroll or living in a delusional la-la land. :crazy:
     
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    it explains a lot ... are you ready for new round of a citizen war in your county ?
     
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    Moreover people like McCain are openly breaking U.S. terror laws. It is beyond ridiculous that no one has taken any action against him and others.

    [B]18 USC § 2339B - Providing material support or resources to designated foreign terrorist organizations[/B]

    http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2339B

    http://www.un.org/sc/committees/1267/NSQE01101E.shtml
     
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    do you want to take those rights from Syrians? no one with the healthy head wants to live in A-stan, och the KSA ...
     
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    You're missing the point. Some people seem to want a tyrannical dictator in power just because he safeguards these silly guarantees (bikinis and nightclubs), or because he 'protects' the Christian community. And they readily and wrongly assume that the only alternative is a KSA like government- which isn't as bad as many believe, but that's beside the point.

    Of course, since the majority of Syrians are Sunni, Sunnism will influence the state whether some may like it or not.
     
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    There's that Western naivety again...
     
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    LOL. This Westerner isn't sure what the hell THAT is, but "naivety" certainly isn't the first word that comes to mind.
     
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    And that is why Assad could not have stayed in power this long without the support of many moderate Sunnis but it one thing for the Sunni faith of moderates to have an influence on a secular government such as Assad's and another for extremists Sunni terrorists to impose total control of their interpretation of the Koran on Syria.
     
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    The only alternative to Assad to Saudi Style wahhabi garbage dump. How do I know this? Because that is what is going on in areas under opposition control. Are you aware of even the basic things that go on in East Aleppo, Hasaka, Ar-Raqqah, Deir ez-Zor? Are you aware that women are required to wear burqas there? Are you aware Syrian women are being forced to marry foreign jihadis as war trophies? Are you aware that children are being taught to hate Shias and Christians? Are you aware that there are sharia courts in every rebel controlled area? They are savages and cockroaches. Every single one of them will be eliminated by Syrian Army and the Kurds. And yes I will continue to back Syrian govt because they are secular. And yes wearing skirts, tshirts, jeans and bikinis are reasons enough for moderate Syrians to support Assad. Anything is better than those wahhabi salafi cockroaches. I pray they will all be eliminated, but not before suffering torture and humiliation. That is the only way to treat those wahhabi / salafi subhuman cockroaches.
     
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    How are women forced to marry?
     
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    All roads lead to Vanguard who seem to be the owners of this our Planet Earth and as transitory beings to think one can own any part of this Earth is in its' self is delusioned isn't it?.
     
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    by brutal force , do i need to explain to you, your own culture cods?
     
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    Since Hafez al-Assad took power in 1970, the government has been dominated by a political elite led by the secular Alawite Al-Assad family. During the "Islamic uprising in Syria" in the '70s and '80s, this establishment came under tremendous pressure. The conflict continues today as a function of the Syrian civil war.

    Wiki

    Are you Syrian?
     
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    Damascus was one of the first regions to receive Christianity during the ministry of St Peter. There were more Christians in Damascus than anywhere else. After the military expansion of the Umayyad empire into Syria and Anatolia, the teachings of Islam came into practice and many became Muslims.

    Nowadays, Damascus still contains a sizeable proportion of Christians, with churches all over the city, but particularly in the district of Bab Touma (The Gate of Thomas in Aramaic). Masses are held every Sunday and civil servants are given Sunday mornings off to allow them to attend church, even though Sunday is a working day in Syria. Schools in Christian-dominated districts have Saturday and Sunday as the weekend, while the official Syrian weekend falls on Friday and Saturday.

    continued.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christianity_in_Syria
     
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    Who are these moderate Sunnis you speak of? Do you mean the Sunnis whom have benefited economically from the regime, while the majority of the Sunnis who don't have connections with the government, or are not Alawites (secularism much?) have to live in poverty, with no chance of escaping it?

    Or do you mean the Sunnis (SyrianGirl is one example) who just want Assad to remain in power because they prefer secularism (bikinis and nightclubs and other silly crap), and if the regime has to torture children to maintain said secularism, then so be it?

    These people whom you speak of (Sunni or not) prefer the stability the regime brings, but that is simply the cowards way out.

    Finally, with regards to your point about choosing between extremists and secularists, I already showed in past posts how this is a false dichotomy.
     
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    Well, these Syrian Christians may be the original Christians, but the today Western Christians are calling themselves "Judäo-Christians" or Christian Zionists.

    That is a big difference.

    Not everybody who calls himself a "Christian" is really a Christian in the original sense of this word.

    Most Christians were even forced to change their Holy Book, because some people believed that the scriptures of the New Testament are not PC.

    It was predicted in the New Testament that many scoundrels will call themselves "Christians" and speak in the name of Jesus Christ, but be part of the "Synagogue of Satan" (Revelation 2:9 and 3:9).
     
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    you have the poor mind if you really think that secularism means: bikinis and nightclubs, but i m here to help you

    secularism
    [video=youtube;0yr1U5x6Nw0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0yr1U5x6Nw0[/video]
    salafi/wahhabism
    [video=youtube;ONwY5h7lid8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONwY5h7lid8[/video]
     
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    oh My God..name 1(well known) Catholic, Lutheran, Calvenist who calls himself for "Judäo-Christians"/Christian Zionists.
     
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    I know; I was being sardonic. But a lot of people do. How many times have we been treated to the same photgraphs of Afghan women during the 70s? How superficial!
     
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    Too many poor want to find someone to blame for their situation, and in many Sunni countries the Christians are blamed in the same way the Jews have been in Western countries. Because of this the Christians and other non Muslims in the Near and Middle have had their properties stolen, and have been massacred and ethnically cleansed for centuries.

    From what I know Assad didn't give partiality to the Christians, yet they were able to secure a living in Syria, so is he to blame for the poverty suffered by the Sunnis? Shouldn't the blame be the limits imposed on them by their own 'culture', since it doesn't encourage individual achievement, but instead violence as a means of triumphing over others?
    :confuse:.
     
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    those photos show that A-stan had a chance if Saudis/CIA did not show up in this corner of the world ...they show that maybe in future A-stan ´ll be a normal country ... as long as Syria is 2013 it has a chance, if it falls back in time (like A-stan, Chechnya , etc did) to the dark ages it´d never get back normal life
    Taliban when it was in power
    [video=youtube;G4l267pCGdA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4l267pCGdA[/video]

    Taliban is out of power but - Old habits die hard

    [video=youtube;9OXCStY7yXI]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9OXCStY7yXI[/video]

    here is video from Chechen "Taliban" , Grozny was during soviet time a culture and strong economical center of the region
    [video=youtube;KbgPJsx5DBU]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbgPJsx5DBU[/video]

    do you think that the Syrian war ends up in Syria?
     
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    When foreign or FSA jihadis enter Syrian cities and are the authority in the area they make their own rules. Radical Saudi clerics issued fatwas that allows them to rape and marry any Syrian girl they want. There are even "legal prostitution centers" where jihadis go to relax after battles. They justify this through fatwas. If a jihadi wants to marry any Syrian woman, he will do so because there is nobody to say no.
     
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    any link?
     
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    oh my God, whats status have those women at home? ...arab culture is so practical...
     

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