If Treyvon were white and dressed in a hoody, walking by himself in the rain after dark, and looking into peoples houses I have little doubt that Zimmerman would have reacted the same as he did that fateful night. However, I doubt it would have led to the death of the kid because the kid would not have been told since birth that white America hates him. This really is the crux, if Martin doesn't resort to violence he's alive today. So why did he attack? I believe it's because of racial profiteers such as the Sharptons and Jacksons that incessantly spew lies and misinformation about racial injustice that just isn't there.
This is as good or better than any other theory floating around. And it ain't over yet. How many more Black kids are gonna get killed this year, because of Sharpton's and Jackson's loud mouths ?
Look at the slide show for the Retreat.. - - - Updated - - - They weren't creeping around the neighborhood hunting burglars like some demented Barney Fife.
Trayvon Martin wasn't looking into people's houses, he was simply walking home from the store and talking on the phone. It was raining, so he stopped under the cover of the mail bod kiosk. There is no indication that he was taught from birth that white America hates him. There is no proof that Martin attacked Zimmerman. According to the evidence, Zimmerman's nose was hit from the left. Marin is right handed. If Martin had attacked Zimmerman the way you claim, he would have used his right hand. On the other hand, most parents teach their children that if an adult is following them they should do what it takes to protect themselves. It is more likely that Zimmerman following Martin is was started the conflict. Once Zimmerman and Martin met face to face, Zimmerman should have identified himself as NW. Zimmerman was the adult in this situation and it was his responsibility to make sure Martin got home safely being that Martin was staying with someone who lived in that community. Instead, Zimmerman was convinced that Martin was up to no good and responded based on his wrong assumption. Zimmerman didn't have to shoot Martin, he wanted to.
You must be trolling because there's no way a rational person could believe that drivel. I don't care if he was actually looking into houses or not. The question is under EXACTLY the same circumstances except Martins skin color does Zimmerman react the same. I believe he does. I hope that clears things up for you. - - - Updated - - - You must be trolling because there's no way a rational person could believe that drivel. I don't care if he was actually looking into houses or not. The question is under EXACTLY the same circumstances except Martins skin color does Zimmerman react the same. I believe he does. I hope that clears things up for you.
Maybe I'm not being clear. Zimmerman observed a stranger in his neighborhood walking by himself in the rain after dark. That, my friends, is suspicious behavior no matter the race of the stranger. Zimmerman would have acted as he did that night. Now if Treyvon doesn't have a huge chip on his shoulder (as our esteemed president articulated yesterday) does he still attack Zimmerman? I think there's a good chance he doesn't.
No it isn't.. I live in a real gated community where kids without cars walk all the time.. in any kind of weather wearing hoodies and talking on cellphones.
This is exactly correct. The atmosphere these kids are raised in tells them to act out in violence and no one tells them otherwise. If there are any deaths due to violent reaction of this verdict Obama should be held accountable for inciting the violence. If you really and truly want to save more kids from being killed, the president should be speaking about how violence is not the way to solve your problems. He instead has chosen to waft the flames of racism which will undoubtedly lead to another child possibly being killed when they resort to violence in response to the verdict. If Obama isn't smart enough to understand this then he should not be POTUS and should resign.
Seriously? I don't care where you live, it's not a giant leap to assume a stranger walking by himself after dark in your neighborhood could be up to no good. Staff edit <<< Reply to deleted post removed >>>
Nonsense.. George didn't know everyone who lived at the Retreat and they didn't know him. Teens without cars walk.. and sometimes get caught in the rain.. The problem was George's fantasies and absolute lack of judgment.
I think he was taught to hate white...just listen to the tapes the racial slurs he utter against Zimmerman.
Who enabled the race baiters and poverty pimps? Who has the power to do so? Why would you think the Civil Rights movement was spontaneously generated within the Black community and not directed from above and outside it? Blacks are incapable of organizing such a powerful and successful movement. If you weren't in love with a selected part of the ruling class, you would see that this is a combined movement, where the Left Wing of the vulture attacks the majority from the bottom up while its Right Wing claws us from the top down. Don't blame the attack dogs, blame their owners.
Margot, you're smarter than that (I hope). First, stop calling him a teen. It's irrelevant. Martin was 6'2" and it was dark, no way GZ could ascertain how old he was. Now of course GZ didn't know everyone, so? Since Martin actually did not live there its safe to say Zimmerman did not recognize him. It was after dark and it was raining. Now maybe I'm slow but it seems to me that that is precisely the job you expect a NW guy to do: challenge unrecognized individuals walking by themselves when nobody else is out.
This entire color issue is all bull(*)(*)(*)(*). I have owned 2 businesses for more than 40 years, and I couldn't care less what the skin color of a person is, but when I have had people like pictured below coming into by stores, you can bet I am going to be extremely cautious. This gang bang punk ass mentality that young people, especially blacks have embraced, is why they are looked at so suspiciously. Since this is the look that causes the most problems, is it any wonder that people profile them.
Wow... Ok. The point is Martin was certainly big enough to be mistaken for an older person. I have no idea what difference this makes. It was 7 p.m. yes. Again, the point is that it was dark and there were not any other people around. He was not just by himself, he was the ONLY person walking on that street! Now this obviously doesn't make one a criminal but it does make it reasonable for the NW captain (Whatever TF that is) to challenge him. It's completely reasonable and I think Zimmerman behaves the same no matter Martins skin color!
There is nothing to indicate Martin was taught to hate white people. Believe what you want to believe, but demonizing the Martin family in order to make your point isn't cool in my book.
Had Zimmerman worn something that would have identified him as a guard, he wouldn't have been 'profiled' by Trayvon as a homosexual and he might have been alive today. Funny how he's the one who profiled Zimmerman and no one's mentioning it, yet Zimmerman wasn't profiling, yet he's being accused of it. Will somebody give these people some brains, maybe they'll stop listening to demagogues like Obama, Jackson and Sharpton.
Please show us the report that states he was looking into peoples houses. That is just a flat out lie. Also if Trayvon would have been white Zimmerman would have never found him "suspicious". Sorry, but you can't change History to His-Story. Show us the proof that he attacked. Racist babble and nothing more.
1. That wasn't the question. 2. What about the slide show ? You said "Trayvon wasn't looking into people's houses." Does the slide show indicate that ?
I live in a gated community too. There's lots of kids here, Black, White, Hispanic, Asian. I NEVER see them walking around in the rain (or STOPPING in the rain too, as Trayvon was reported to have done). If they did, YES that would be suspicious, looking in windows or not. Remember, it doesn't mean they've done anything wrong. It just means that as a security person, you OBSERVE them, that's all. (and if they're mobile then of course observation requires following)
What proof do you have that George didn't know everyone who lived at the Retreat ? You're really just guessing on that aren't you ?
