"Alabama clears plan to use COVID-19 relief funds to build prisons"

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  1. archives

    archives Well-Known Member

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    https://thehill.com/homenews/state-...an-use-covid-19-relief-funds-to-build-prisons

    Last week it was Arizona:

    "Arizona can't use COVID money for anti-mask grants"

    https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wire...-feds-80417093

    Both States rank near the top in Covid infection rates and vaccination rates

    rates https://www.statista.com/statistics/1109004/coronavirus-covid19-cases-rate-us-americans-by-state/
    https://www.beckershospitalreview.c...entage-of-population-vaccinated-march-15.html

    Both State's citizens are being victimized by the very virus this funding was intended to address. What is it that these States' leaders are missing?
     
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    Republicans definitely have their priorities straight
     
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    apexofpurple Well-Known Member

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    Our culture idolizes, excuses, and panders to crime. We're also the dumping ground from 3rd worlders who's cultures don't even regard much of this behavior as criminal. Are you really shocked we have to put so many people behind bars? I'm only shocked we even bother letting them out seeing as how basically 99% of criminals are repeat offenders.
     
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    Love to see American prison rankings not including blacks and hispanics.
     
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The latest study I can find says it is about 83% for violent state prisons, 64% for federal prisons and 39.8% for non-violent offenses.

    I cannot find a source for your illegal immigrant claim — maybe you can provide one? Most of the studies I can locate state the US is so high in recidivism rates is due to inhumane treatment in prison, length of incarceration vs type of crime, crowding, they are not equipped to renter society, they are shunned by society often being unable to acquire gainful employment and there are few programs to help them (likely goes back to the “pull yourself up by the bootstraps”).

    I guess an easy cop out is to just blame brown people and ignore the real issues. Seems like your go to strategy.
     
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    apexofpurple Well-Known Member

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    Ho ho ho, ok Maddow calm down. America's tolerance for crime isn't limited to race thing even though there are aspects unique to racial groups. Everywhere you look there is crime. We regularly break laws and we do it with casual disregard. You probably broke the law the last time you drove your car. Its just in our American DNA to rebel and because of that we're comfortable with it, because its been so deeply ingrained in our culture, we're predisposed to tolerate it. Combine that with the human tendency to overindulge and you've got a classic case slippery slope.
     
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    Or… it could be we have too many laws, too harsh of penalties for some crimes and too lax of penalties for others along with refusing to institute programs to both rehabilitate the incarcerated as well as help them reintroduce to society.

    So is it brown people as per your first assertion or Americans naturally being criminals due to their culture?
     
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    The number of laws we have parallels our descent into degeneracy. I think, if anything we need more laws and we need more punishment.

    American culture tolerates criminality. "Brown people", as you put it although I just said 3rd worlders, simply don't regard certain things as criminal. Here's what I said:

    We're also the dumping ground from 3rd worlders who's cultures don't even regard much of this behavior as criminal.
     
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    Finally, GOP with backbones.
     
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    I asked for a source for your claim that much of our prison population or crime is due to “3rd worlders”. Back your claim up.

    Your idea that “the number of laws we have parallels our descent into degeneracy” is simply bovine excrement — I expect partisan responses but that is just sad.
     
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    Violent and property crimes have been plunging downward since the 1990's. Our prisons are overcrowded because our endless war on drugs.
     
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    Amazing, bottom line, prisons have nothing to do with Covid, the money is aimed at assisting those who suffered from Covid or addressing Covid spread, and a State with high infection rates/low vaccination rates, is spending over twenty percent of these funds on something else
     
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    So a third of the cost is coming from the COVID funds. They could could transfer $400M from the education budget to go to prisons and then put the $400M back into the education budget from the COVID money if that would make you feel peachy. It is just about the accounting.
     
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    The virus will eventually go away. Criminals, especially when you import them by the hundreds of thousands, will not.
     
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    Building more prisons doesn't fix the justice system.
     
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    The problem with the justice system is a few peaceful protesters have been in jail for months while rioting, looting and burning anarchists either weren’t arrested at all, bailed out by Harris, or had their charges dropped in the name of social justice.
     
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    Doesn't it though? Being an ******* has become so comfortably common that every year we find new ways to piss each other off and do harm in ways that were previously so unheard of and rare that we never needed to codify that you shouldn't do it. Sitting here in my house I can think of laws that regulate how high my grass can be, how loud my stereo can be, where I can park my car, how I can store my garbage, and so on. And the reason behind all of those laws is the same: *******s. Because at some point we just had too many *******s letting their yards turn into overgrown breeding grounds for weed and bug infestations, thumping their bass music at max volume to where it could be felt 5 houses down, parking their hickup trucks and trailers on the laws destroying any sense of neighborhood curb appeal, letting their trash pile up attracting rats and stinking up the damn place rather than dispose of it in a timely manner, and every other thing *******s do that just pisses us normal people off such that the only recourse we had was to have government step in and punish people for which common decency just isn't enough incentive to act right.

    Degeneracy most absolutely parallels codification. How could it not?
     
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    That just comes with population density
    I assure you rural Tennessee does not have such laws — if they do they are not enforced.
     
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    This is a good example of big government growing stronger with every tax dollar. If cells are empty, create more laws!!!
     
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    I assure you we have plenty of mask

    "The federal rescue package was enacted to help states plug budget holes in the wake of the Covid-19 pandemic, but the Biden administration has issued broad guidance on how the funds can be used, including offsetting revenue losses to protect "vital public services." The administration has also encouraged state and local governments to use some of the funding to address a summer rise in violent crime."
    https://www.cnn.com/2021/10/01/poli...son-bills-signed-governor-kay-ivey/index.html

    Isn't COVID relief money supposed to be use for infrastructure and creating jobs? Biden encouraged it be used for public safety. He also said to plug state budget shortfalls for spending. What's the problem.
     
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    The United States does a good job of catching and prosecuting criminals, you object? Are you on the defund police side? Think all the stealing going on with stores closings in the inner cities because they are arresting criminals is a good thing?

    Anyone in Alabama can get vaccinated, anyone in Alabama can get tested, anyone in Alabama can get treatment...............what's your point?
     
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    Roll Tide.... or War Eagle!

    My family is half and half... I fell into the Roll Tide side.
     
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    ROFL well we are seeing what happens where they are not enforcing the laws against criminal behaviors, I just started a thread about stores closing in San Francisco. Why would you want to do ONLY as good a job at catching and prosecuting criminals as those other countries? I like having low crime rates and the means we arrest and prosecute and incarcerate those who commit crimes.
     

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