Alabama Election Results: Doug Jones Defeats Roy Moore in U.S. Senate Race

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    That was the concept by which the Clinton D's and Bush 43 operated. Getting low income families into homes would be a very good thing and inspire them to get ahead in life earn economic success which would be good for the country. Bush increased the HUD requirement to 55%. Why did he do that ?? And what was the purpose of Clinton starting the program and raising the HUD requirement to 50% ?? The real tragedy of all this is that the people who suffered the most economic damage were the low income families that the program was supposed to help.

    And of course some unscrupulous mortgage companies and politicians took advantage - ever heard of the friends of Angelo list ?? Why was it never published ?? Chris Dodd reaped in tens of thousands of dollars.
     
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    When they're selling bundled up bottom trench mortgages as AAA paper, there's something really, rotten going on. What I'd to know is why the idiots buying this garbage for pension funds were so derelict.

    I remember going through Las Vegas on a long car trip with my wife after putting all of our money in cash back when the Bush numbskulls let Lehman go under. The housing crisis was going full bore by then. We drove through new housing developments south of town where whole streets would have one ot two occupied houses. Some houses had been lived in and up for sale, others were brand new. Everyday folks were hurt by these crooks. Marriages broke up and people lost their life savings.

    Pardon me, but the people around here who defend the perps either don't know what really happened or don't care. I got out of the market through by mid-2008 and got back in starting in mid-2009. It was great for me, but not so good for most Americans who don't know their mutual fund salesman makes money by telling them not to sell. (Yeah, I could have made even more shorting stocks, but I don't like watching my money like a hawk.)
     
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    That's ridiculous. Repeal of Glass-Steagall had absolutely nothing to do with the housing bubble or the GFC. That's the point.

    What regulatory framework is that that Clinton dismantled ?? How did Bush make it worse ??
     
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    It's the same little guy who put his faith in Trump after Democrats decided to save the planet on the backs of everyday folks. (Think carbon taxes.)
     
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    I like how redumblicans use this defense that a smear campaign helped beat Moore but a smear campaign against Hillary never happened...
     
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    Someone completely unaffiliated with the existing public school system is the ideal person to reform it so that low income students have equal access to a quality education. The failures of the existing system is an insult to Americans and a tragedy to those low income students who are stuck in failed schools and not been lucky enough to win enrollment in a charter school lottery of receive a school voucher. Heard of Eva Moskowitz ?? Heard of Joel Klein ?? Heard of Michelle Rhee ??
     
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    They were rated AAA. They trusted the gov system and paid the price.
     
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    Allred and the liberals had to go back 40 years to fabricate a lie that could not be proven or disproven
     
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    Or can be proven to be true,,,Don’t you wonder why Judge Moore didn’t sue for defamation? Because he knows that was his signature. We don’t care that she wrote the place and date underneath, we care that he wrote it meaning he lied about knowing her
     
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    Or he couldn't remember if it happened. You know if you were messing around with HS girls when you were 32yrs old.
     
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    Uh huh. While the repeal of Glass-Stegall was not directly responsible for the crisis, it left the investment side with even more influence in banks. Risk taking increased. Clinton's DoJ relaxed enforcement against fraudulent mortgages.
    He gutted the SEC by requiring enforcement actions be approved by board and he named Cox as the Chair. The DoJ did very little to stop widespread fraud in the marketing of securities.
     
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    I can tell you a lot about charter schools. First of all low income kids can enroll in charter schools but the misconception is that charter schools are so fabulous. Some of them are absolutely awful and some more wonderful. And why would somebody who is totally unaffiliated with the public school system be the ideal person to improve it. Wouldn’t somebody who is familiar with the existing public school system be the better person? I taught in one of those low income schools and we had the solution which was to create three separate many schools within the building. It was the most fantastic experience I ever had educationally
    My concern is giving kids vouchers to private schools. What Goodwill a $1000 voucher be to a school that charges 20,000?
    I bet you go to a carpenter for heart surgery because after all he is not affiliated with the medical profession
     
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    And the trauma of it doesn’t go away for the 14 year old having a 32 year old powerful man touch her and have her touch his penis
     
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    Sad that some folks will actually try to defend a 32yr old man fooling around with HS girls.
     
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    Since it is established, Trump support base is not shrinking, it is ****ing amazing that "32% intellectual cellar dwellers" have won an election for Trump. Granted, Putin has personally carried Trump over the finish line but still... :confusion:
     
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    Not me, just as soon it is proven in court and beyond the shadow of doubt. Still, he was a flowed candidate and I'm glad he lost an election.
     
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    How would it be proven in a court of law, if the age of consent is 16. I am speaking from a sense of morals and decency.
     
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    There was no time to sue before the election

    No I hope he does sue them

    As for the yearbook it prvoes nothing sonce it has not been authenticated

    And it certainly does not prove he tried to get intimate with her
     
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    I can believe he might have flirted with hs girls 40 years ago

    But not the allegations of attemped rape

    And it is curious that no women have come forward for the past 30 years, or 20 years or 5 years ago

    For most sex offenders the urge never goes away

    But moore has been happily married to the same woman for decades while most of his accuses have had a revolving door of men in their lives
     
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    That could be from the effect of messing around with a grown man when they were still a child.
     
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    It has been authenticated. Just not by someone agreed to by both parties.

    And it would prove that he knew he, which contradicts his lack of personal knowledge.

    And he ain't gonna sue for a few reasons. First, he would be deposed and subject to testifying under oath. Next, there is reason to suspect that the theoretical defendants don't have much money to obtain. And finally, he won't because that would keep their name in the news and thereby destroy the bullshit right wing talking point of these women disappearing.
     
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    It appears there will be no liberal men other than homosexuals serving in washington or performing in hollywood pretty soon unless the left puts an end their fake morality purge
     
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    Yeah, right

    That was funny

    Tell me another one
     
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    Then it has NOT been authenticated
     

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