Albanians vs Neighbors ,Why Is There So Much Hate?

this article is old but reflects the image of tennis matches when serbs and croats play against each other:

http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/tennis/aus07/news/story?id=2731537






point: the one who's seeing old.Yugos hanging out - forgets that those are old Yugos non old Yugos are usually radicals and nazi collaborators displaced after the WW2- and there is huge number of those.

 

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Hey, the Epiriotes were Greek, are Greek and always will be Greek, so what are you talking about? Olympius like Phillip is a Greek name, not an Illyrian one.

I really wish Muslims would start studying history, and stop their fairy tales. It's bad enough they steal land and property, but stealing people's heritage is a little too much. What kind of complex do you people have anyway?

 

Have you read Life or Death for Freedom by Demir S. Hysooli? Its his story of growing up in Albania....

 

You do know there was no crime in Greece until the Albanians came pouring in? Now every home has iron shutters on their windows, and five bolt locks on their doors. The elderly are being killed as well as robbed for their pension checks, and this is what gave rise to Golden Dawn. This does not mean all Albanians are crooks, only a large amount of them...but it does undermine the rest.

Now tell me, what do you people want, is it to take over the neighboring lands so they can become like Albania? I see how prosperous Kosovo became since you kicked out the Serbs. Oh that's right, I forgot! It's part of Islam to have the 'dhimmis' doing the work and bowing to their Muslim overseers. I guess the mess they made out of the Balkans in the past centuries wasn't enough. They want to repeat it.

 

Do you remember why they came flooding into Greece? They were being slaughtered by the Communists.

 

If the Italians loved those guys, they wouldn't have migrated to Greece. The Northern Italians are quite racist, even towards their own South. Of course it could be an intolerance towards crime, something the Southern Italians and Albanians are quite adept at.

 

Actually the influx of Albanians into Greece is very recent. Most came to Greece for work and settled there, although now with the economic situation some did move back to Albania. It caused quite a problem because their children have gone to Greek schools and are Greek. Most Albanians are hard working but there are so many criminals and when they were being sent back, they would re-enter with new passports. The E.U. has a list of seventy thousand Albanians who are persona no gratis.

As for the communists, northern Epirus was Greek and it was grabbed by the communist government of Albania after WWII. Many Greeks in Albania left for Greece, but the others have to be protected. Recently a church was attacked ...but to be honest though I don't know what's going on there, other then they have a lot of problems. I know there have been fights between the police and Albanians in the northern parts of Greece as well.

What I do know is that their PM had made a speech in which he included parts of Greece, Fyrom, and Serbia as being part of Albania. Of course this came after he was paid a visit by Devotoglu, Erdogans well known troublemaker.

 

Let me explain a few things here about Cyprus. In the Treaty of Lausanne which was signed by Attaturk, Constantinople (Istanbul) was given to Turkey with the provision the Greeks who were in the majority at the time were to remain. The last remnants of Greeks in the city, were ethnically cleansed twenty five years later during the pogroms of the 1950's.

The Greek city of Smyrna and the Anatolian coast was given to Turkey as well as the Pontus area, which was the ancient kingdom of Trebizond and fully inhabited by Greeks before they were killed and ethnically cleansed together with the Armenians. In exchange Greece was to get part of Thrace as well as all the islands in the Aegean with the exception of two. The island of Cyprus in the Treaty, was to go to Greece.

Cyprus belonged to Britain during WWI, and they promised it to Greece after the war. Winston Churchill also promised it to Greece as well after WWII, but both time they reneged on their promise. Since Britain wasn't willing to give up the island, Greece brought it to the U.N. The Turkish population on Cyprus was only 17%, but when Turkey got a whiff of it they began freaking out. It didn't matter that Attaturk signed a treaty.

According to the Treaty of Lausanne twenty five thousand Turks were allowed to remain in Thrace and today there are way over one hundred and fifty thousand Muslims living in Thrace. To the Greeks they are Greek, and have not kicked them out. In contrast, the hundreds of thousands of Greeks who lived in Constantinople have now diminished to two thousand.

It doesn't matter what lies Erdogan spews out, the facts remain the facts, and this is what is known in the U.N. and the E.U. Turkey might scream that the Greeks will commit genocide on the Turks if the thirty five thousand troops leave, but the facts remain that the Cypriots never killed any of the Turkish population, while the Turks killed thousands upon thousands of Cypriots and ethnically cleansed one third of the island. Turkey has illegally occupied one third of the island, and it continues to do so. Is it any wonder they are merely tolerated by the nations in the world, but never respected or trusted.

In the Turkish mind this lack of respect is blamed on Armenian propaganda or Greek propaganda. Never on Turkey's own actions. Turkey, whose population on Cyprus was 17%, now occupies one third of the island, yet it refuses to pay for the homes and business' it has stolen. They even brought in Turks from the mainland to increase their population and to occupy those homes.

Turkey also has never paid the Greeks of Constantinople for their homes and business' which they took during the pogroms of the 1950's. When there was a major earthquake in Constantinople and eighty thousand people died, the Greeks ran in immediately to help the trapped people. The Turkish government professing gratitude, said it wanted to compensate Greece for its sacrifices and give back some of the property taken during the pogroms. The Constantinopolitan Greeks believed the government, but when they went there it turned out to be another one of Erdogan's lies.

I hope you're proud of your government. As for me, I would be very ashamed, very ashamed.

 

Even discounting the fact that Albanians lived all over the Balkans before the slavs and the greeks migrated in, those lands in the Fyrom and Serbia have been cultivated by Albanian populations continuously. So the question is rather why you don't want Albanians to have a homeland.

 

You ignore the fact that this nationalistic agression is manufactured in Paris and London, not in the Balkans. It is also amazing that you support government-sponsored deportations, considering that the original (and unimplemented) version of the ww1 peace treaty with Turkey demanded that Turkey gave up half of its ANCESTRAL homeland to Greece. With this fact, it is much less surprising that Turkey clings to aggressive measures. The French and the British are not exactly famous of dividing lands fairly by population ratios, are they? HEHEHE

 

where is Turkish ANCESTRAL homeland ?

 

The Ottoman Turkish ancestral homeland is western Anatolia. Of course there were other tribes living there before the Ottoman settlers, but this is true for every land on Earth. What matters is, that at the time of the territorial division, who was settled on the land of question. And in case of the ww1 peace dictates, all European borders were purposefully drawn to violate this basic principle. (Including the borders of Lithuania too. HEHE) So, Paris has purposefully drew Albania's borders incorrectly small, also Hungary's borders incorrectly small, took entire countries such as Croatia off the map, and this is still the currently ongoing legacy in the EU region.

 

when Turks did come to the western Anatolia?when the did Turks become majority in the western Anatolia? Albania ended up war on Loser side, what they should get Belgrade and Dubrovnik? Hungary(love this country) ...for all crimes what they have committed its more then enough.

 

The 1st rule of history is, that the winning warlord (e.g. Stalin) calls it criminal when the losing party wants to defend itself.

 

so why did you complain about unfairness of "ww1 peace treaty", Turkey was on the loser side... anyway, everyone who has read history know that Asia Minor is not good place to live , even the Hittites lost it one day...

 

Because this makes you unfairly called a criminal. Turkey, Albania, Hungary, and even the non-existent Galician nationalist Bandera are unfairly called criminal.

Apart from this, I agree that Asia Minor is not a good place to live at. For a while, Europe's mountain ranges were safe to live at, historically. But these too were run down by various armies in modern times. Where would be a "good place"?

 

T. and A. has terrorized local people for many 100 years, Hungary oppressed minorities very badly and not allowed to the AHE to be reformed

good, more save: Palesse, Carpathians, Madagascar

 

I'm sick and tired of these threads. Can we not just get along. No one is better than anyone else. Yes, Albanians are native to this land. I just took a DNA test and it was 74% Italy/Greece, 11% Europe East, 7% Caucacus, 4% Great Britain, 3% Europe West and less than 1% Scandanavian. I would wager than a Greek person would have about the same, meaning, we're both native to this part. It doesn't mean I'm Greek, and it doesn't mean your Albanian. As for Serbians, you are also my brothers and sisters. You're probably about the same as well, but more Northeastern European. You are lighter skinned after all. I'm sure you won't deny that. Anyway, I'm going to live my life as if there are rational people in the world. Please, come join me, intelligent, non-nationalistic people. Let us live in harmony.