All the vaccines contain the poison "Graphene"

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  1. Betamax101

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    SCOTT? Did you "miss" this? That would be in your own words, detailing things properly and not some idiotic link to more batshit.
     
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    You have no idea what he knows about natural remedies that are banned in the US.
     
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    It was explained by a doctor in one of the videos I've watched. I don't remember which one.

    You're just muddying the waters anyway. All we have to do is test it ourselves. We need an obliging vaccinated person who didn't take the placebo.
    http://politicalforum.com/index.php...e-get-placebos-instead-of-the-vaccine.591094/

    We have to try it on someone who got sick after taking the vaccine to be sure he or she didn't get a placebo.
     
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    I have plenty of idea of his qualifications and none relate to blood analysis! The man was convicted so he becomes a hero for the antivax team?

    Once again! HOW WOULD YOU KNOW!? You aren't qualified and have already demonstrated that you gullibly believe any old batshit.

    That is just so dumb it is almost beyond words. Your scientific method is to stick a magnet on a human being? Logoff.
     
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    It's a very simple test. If we actually try it on a few vaccinated people, we'll know whether it's actual magnetism, or glue. You people really get carried away when you try to muddy the waters. You just end up looking silly.
     
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    If you are making the assertion that is is a direct effect of the vaccination, I think you have a responsibility to be able to explain the proposed mechanism, if only at the high level, or provide a technical explanation (preferably formally written rather than a casual filmed narrative or interview). At the very least, you should track down the video you're talking about here so you can answer my honest, simple question.

    I've been vaccinated. I had a sore arm and mild flu-like symptoms for a couple of days after the first dose. I am not magnetic.
     
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    If you're telling the truth, this is evidence that those videos of people with magnets sticking to their bodies are using glue. We need a study with more than one person though.

    It wouldn't kill you to start watching the videos in this thread. You'll come across it.
     
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    No it isn't. If I'm telling the truth, it is evidence that I have received the vaccine and am not magnetic. You need to stop jumping to conclusions either way. Glue is not the only possible explanation for what we can observe in the kind of videos you're talking about.

    To formally study this though, you'd first need a well defined hypothesis, hence my question about the proposed mechanism.

    My point is that I shouldn't need to. If you're asserting that something is happening, you should be able to explain it. This kind of thread and the associated videos tend to have a scatter-gun of different claims, assertions and alleged evidence. That makes it difficult (quite intentionally I believe) to establish any clear and simple statements.

    If you really want to have a discussion on this topic, it is on you to set out the factual basis.
     
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    So let me understand this. Based on an idiotic video that is completely obvious as more of your deceptive fake news, you think that a field trial involving people sticking magnets to their arms is a good scientific indicator that graphene oxide was part of a vaccine?! I already mentioned to you the presence of iron in blood in quantities orders of magnitude bigger than the contents of a 5ml vaccine, this has no magnetic effect.

    It is really quite comedic that you can't work out who the "silly" one is in this matter!
     
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    You people sure know how to exaggerate. You find some obliging vaccinated people who actually got injured. You put the magnet on the spot where they stuck the needle. It either sticks, or it doesn't. It's not any more complicated than that. The problem for me is finding obliging vaccinated people who've been injured. Maybe some of the viewers can. Maybe some of you posters here can.
     
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    A completely moronic idea that beggars belief. Although my experiment would work, stick your hand in a food blender and turn it in to see if it works - it is no less dumb!

    Yes it is, you wouldn't believe anyone and what crazy world of batshit makes you think that anything would stick around the entry point?
     
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    Why does it need to be vaccinated people who were injured (and exactly how are you defining that anyway)? If the claim is that the vaccine causes some specific effect, you just need people who were vaccinated. If you're presenting an additional claim that some of the vaccines weren't real (as per the scatter-gun of claims I referred to earlier), that would require and entirely different set of testing. You would also want to blind the study to avoid risks of bias (conscious or subconscious) so you'd need both vaccinated and unvaccinated subjects regardless and to perform the test without the testers knowing which is which.

    It's certainly doable and many of the people spending lots of time, effort and money promoting the claims could very easily arrange such honest and legitimate testing by independent parties. They have, for some reason, chosen not to do so. Make of that what you will. :cool:
     
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    Out of this whole post, he chose to reply to one single line of it, with another idiotic evidence-free conspiracy claim used as a means to ignore it.
     
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    Mate if it were magnetic the wouldn’t the nurses giving the shots work out that the vaccines were magnetic when the needles started sticking to the boxes
     
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    I accounted for that claim in the bulk of my post you ignored.

    These are two separate claims and you'd need to address them separately. If you're testing a hypothesis that the vaccine has some specific effect, you'd need a reliable way to determine who has received a vaccine. Patients reporting some kind of noticeable side-effect isn't an especially reliable method. Something like testing for antibodies would be better.

    Alternatively, you could first test the hypothesis that some (undefined proportion of) vaccines were just placebos (for whatever reason). That'd be arguably a much more serious accusation and so should probably be the priority. Of course, that would again require a meaningful hypothesis rather than a handful of random videos full of speculation, unsupported assertions and (I suspect) misinformation conflating vaccine trials (which will have included placebos for control groups) with the actual vaccination programs.

    Or you could toss in a third complication to try to avoid accepting that all of these claims could be independently formally tested if the people making them really wanted that to happen and consider why none of them are choosing to pursue that option.
     
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    I got the Astra Zeneca - do I get a go too?
     
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    Different sources say different things. You just choose the sources that agree with your preconceived notion. We have to figure out which ones are telling the truth.
    https://www.bing.com/search?q=most+...s=n&sk=&cvid=BFECE35C27844E9BAAFD9FAFC12FA41B

    Explosive! Public Health Data: 80% Of Covid-19 Deaths In August Were Vaccinated People
    https://humansarefree.com/2021/09/e...-deaths-in-august-were-vaccinated-people.html

    Mainstream sources are famous for telling outright lies on a large scale.
    http://politicalforum.com/index.php...at-the-lies-furiously.583345/#post-1072353798

    Anyway, if their goal had simply been to eliminate the virus and get the pandemic under control, they would have used ivermectin on everybody.
    http://politicalforum.com/index.php...bout-ivermectin.591850/page-9#post-1072964296
    https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/f...or-vaccines-the-pandemic-is-effectively-over/

    The Story Of The Decade — Is This Mass Murder By Media And Government?
    https://humansarefree.com/2021/09/i...cade-mass-murder-by-media-and-government.html

    It kind of looks like the unvaccinated who are dying of covid could be saved with ivermectin. It's pretty clear that their goal is not to stop the pandemic.
     
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    NO they do not. YOUR batshit sources in the tiny minority and they repost and mirror. Makes it look like like more!

    Right there has to be one of the sickest twisted pieces of projection! That is EXACTLY you to a tee!

    No, we've all figured that out. YOU need to remove your head from no-sunshine central and stop being sucked in by batshit.



    From yet another stupid website link, we have the table that shows the complete opposite of what you claim!

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    The lowest percentile is in two dose cases and there is no corroborative time scale allowing for the 2nd dose to be fully functional!

    And for the 20th time the truly pathetic uranium crap, debunked, oh yes it was! and ignored. Then using that single not relevant case as a generalized yardstick to suggest EVERYTHING is like that.

    And again more spam. Idiotic circular reasoning. Debunked again - no matter how clueless you are, yes it was.

    You completely ignored this video demonstrating that all the so called studies were not as claimed! You said "mainstream" therefore it MUST be a lie, because of your uranium crap.



    And again, idiotic circular reasoning and false conclusions based on previously debunked batshit.

    ANSWER THIS: http://www.politicalforum.com/index...lysis-after-vax.588350/page-7#post-1072963832
     
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    Scott/Cosmored - you are getting your ass kicked. Every subject you post on, I kick your ass. Almost every post you make is conspiracy batshit - debunked. Your only action is to just post more unchecked and entirely hopeless junk, ignore nearly every reply, and where it is undeniable that you are getting your ass kicked, label it as debunker food. Yet again a large post ignored totally by you that shows you are posting outright lies!

    You are not exercising free speech, you are abusing it!
     
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    Complete spam already addressed on another thread! With no evidence for this whatsoever, except for a real life "Karen"! - Karen Kingston.

    No, the mRNA Vaccines Do Not Contain Graphene Oxide | Snopes.com
    "Karen Kingston, who worked in a non-scientific role at Pfizer from 1996-1998, claimed she found evidence of "poison" in the mRNA vaccines."
     
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    How do you know this isn't sophistry? If the government has been caught in a lot of blatant lies such as this.
    http://politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/are-conspiracy-theorists-ever-right.586948/

    That is really for the viewers; I know you're going to believe the government over the whistle-blowing scientist.
     
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    Pathetic. The woman is a complete fraud and you come out with garbage to arm wave it away.

    Idiotic circular reasoning. They haven't and this is not an example.

    She isn't a damn scientist or a whistleblower. The viewers think you are a gullible batshit believer.
     
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