Almost a quarter of Trump supporters oppose having him on ticket if convicted: Survey

The Special Counsel investigation for Hunter Biden was assigned in 2018 under Barr/Trump, and continues to this day. ;

How much longer does the investigation of a private citizen, an investigation which would not have been afforded
any other private US Citizen, have to be before you are happy?

Hmmmm?

 

I suspect you haven't realized that Republicans will not join Democrats in a bill to solve the problem of the Border crisis.

Hell, that might make more people vote for democrats.

No, this debacle is something Republicans want to continue, so guys like you can bellyache about Biden.

But, another thing you fail to realize is that AMericans are the cause of this border crisis.

How? American love drugs that the cartels deliver to AMerica.

Cartels exist because drugs are illegal.

Cartels make life a living hell for the inhabitants of El Salvador, Guatemala, and Honduras, where many of the illegals are coming from.

We helped build up mexico with the maquiladoras. Now that there are jobs down there, we are seeing far fewer Mexican illegals.

We need to do something like this with those countries, and making drugs legal would help, as well.

My solution is to make all drugs legal, sponsored by the government, and addicts sent to quarantined regions if they want to consume such drugs, but done under doctor supervision with mandatory rehab programs in order to qualify for them. This will remove the incentive for cartels to send drugs here, because addicts can get them for free in a national doctor supervisory program, or something along these lines.

 

Remember when you admired and looked up to our President ? Last time was Kennedy maybe Carter

 

When they say they are through investigating.

 

It does not require congress to solve the immediate problem. It only requires the president to take action and tell the border guards to not let anyone in except through legal methods. It will also require a hard conversation with Mexico. This was solved until Biden fxxxed it up.

 

No. It's way more than that. It's why is this NATION created!

And, furthermore, it's the BASIS for what later became the International Declaration of Human Rights. Think about it! The Preamble of the Constitution of the United States was the BASIS for what today we know as "Human Rights". ALL nations that follow rule of law in the world use it as the basis for interpreting their own laws. Why can't we?

The Constitution has to be interpreted on a case by case basis. Because there was no way the framers could account for every single contingency. But they gave us the BASIS for the interpretation. And that basis is .... none other than "human rights"!

Some days I go to bed thinking that keeping them promotes a more perfect union, but then I wake up the next morning convinced that taking him out would be "more perfect". My point is that THAT is the conversation to have.

That's perfectly fine, so long as that is the discussion. In the end, a conclusion will have to be made. Be it based on what makes a more prefect union, or on who offers the best yacht trips or... anything else you can think of. I think the Preamble (ie... human rights) is the best parameter of all.

Absolutely. It is NOT anti-democratic.

Look, bottom line, we KNOW what the final result will be: SCOTUS will allow Trump to run. If this nation starts getting into the habit of analyzing these things on the basis of human rights... and not on things like, arbitrarily redefining the English language. Or in NO reasoning at all, we will have made great progress.

Being popular is not the problem. Being OBJECTIVE is. And the Preamble sets the basis for an objective debate. Again: it doesn't give us the answer. But it makes the debate to obtain the answer RATIONAL. It doesn't matter what decision the Courts make, if it is REASONED based on Human Rights, we will ALL know that it was an objective interpretation and not one made out of partisanship and political ideology.

I agree with you in that the "reasoning" will be something procedural. That's not good either. SCOTUS just keeps kicking the can and we never get anything solid.

 

I look up to Obama. I think he was a very competent and consequential President who presided over two scandal-free terms. I mean REAL scandals. Because fake ones did abound.

I consider Obama the best President since FDR. Maybe even before that. Even though I didn't agree with EVERYTHING he did.

 

So, after 6 years, no charge of corruption, you are still hanging in there in the hopes of Weiss finding some corruption?

No way in hell will Comer find squat, he's an idiot.

Dream on.

 

I have to agree with you there, Obama was the man.

But, Biden got the infrastructure bill passed. Obama got the ACA, though he should have went for UHC, but, hindsight is 2020.

 

It wasn't solved under any president.

In fact, there are more border arrests under Biden than Trump.

My bone to pick with you is that you are incessantly simplistic, and 'simplistic' means unworkably oversimplified. The border issue is not a simple one, and no one liner can get it right.

Your claim that President Biden is not taking action to enforce border security is not entirely accurate. The Biden-Harris Administration has implemented various measures aimed at increasing border security and managing migration more effectively.

In January 2023, the Administration announced new enforcement measures to enhance security at the border and reduce the number of individuals crossing unlawfully between ports of entry.

These measures include expanding and expediting legal pathways for orderly migration, imposing new consequences for those who fail to use these legal pathways, and leveraging the success of the Venezuela enforcement initiative. The Administration also announced a surge in resources to the border and the region, scaling up anti-smuggling operations, and expanding coordination and support for border cities and non-governmental organizations. The efforts also involve working closely with Mexico and governments across the Western Hemisphere.

Additionally, the DHS has taken actions to increase enforcement across the Southwest Border, accelerate processing of work authorizations, and redesignate and extend Temporary Protected Status (TPS) for Venezuela. This includes combating human smugglers and prosecuting an increasing number of smugglers and noncitizens violating U.S. laws. The Administration has also deployed additional military personnel to support border efforts and expanded the Family Expedited Removal Management program to quickly remove families without a lawful basis to remain.

Furthermore, the Biden Administration has continued construction of the border wall in certain areas, using funds appropriated by Congress during the Trump Administration. President Biden had sought to reappropriate these funds for other purposes, but Congress did not agree to this, and as a result, the Administration is legally obligated to use the money for its originally intended purpose, which includes the construction of barrier systems along the southwest border.

These measures indicate that the Biden Administration is taking various actions to address border security and immigration, focusing on both enforcement and creating legal pathways for migration.

https://www.wral.com/story/fact-che...than-under-trump-and-obama-combined/20989593/
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...arrests-under-biden-exceed-obamas-eight-years
https://www.pewresearch.org/short-r...ts-and-deportations-have-changed-under-trump/
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...-2-million-arrested-illegally-crossing-border

 

There is no of knowing what or what they do not find.

 

Illegal crossings are setting new records every day.

 

Several judges have agreed Trump committed/engaged in, gave aid to, insurrection.

I just can't see how such a man should even be given a chance to be reelected.

That, in my book, defies logic.

You realize that if he is on the ballot, it is entirely possible he could be elected.

That is a risk, risking democracy itself, is a risk not worth taking.

I don't' buy your other contention that 'trumpism will continue'.

It will die, for without trump, the bellows for that ill wind, the storm will fade.

If he is on the ballot, and even if he loses, you think they will not believe it wasn't stolen, again? It won't change a thing. We will wind up precisely where we are if he is not on the ballot.

And, if that is the same place, why risk democracy to get there when we could get there without risking it?

 

So what? Stats go up, more people vote, stocks go up, everything rises.

It's a meaningless point.

The fact remains, it's always been a problem.

Separating children from parents is not the answer. That's child abuse.

Besides, we need more immigration, not less.

 

You'll continue to cling to some wild ass dream that Biden is corrupt.

Dream on.

 

Then why does the majority of people think it is a problem?
ttps://www.statista.com/statistics/329256/alien-apprehensions-registered-by-the-us-border-patrol/
And the crossings in 2023 continued to go up to 2.5 million.

 

I only know there is incriminating evidence in spite of your denial and the investigations are not over.

 

That is definitely a risk. Democracy has may implicit risks.

I don't agree that this would die if Trump is kept off the ballot. I think it would make things worse. In any case, the matter is moot because SCOTUS WILL keep him on the ballot.

 

So, keeping him off the ballot would make him even more of a "victim"???
IF he wins. .Democracy is in peril. If he loses. we will go through the same bellicosity from him as we have since the last election. He will not leave center stage.
What an incredible situation all this is and all because of ONE person. Who would not accept that he lost in the gracious manner expected of ADULTS.
The latter is a serious character flaw all on its own.

 

You guys are too funny. The more you go after Trump, the stronger he gets.

 

And that speaks to the lack of values and principles now.
Just heard a lady say that if Trump is in jail, he can still be POTUS (and run the country from his cell )
If this is the mindset of the Trump supporter (voter) then this country is in dire state (or would be)

 

Trump is doing well with the young, blacks, latinos, women, and independents. He is either tied or ahead in all swing states. You are going to lose if you don't realize his support comes from more than MAGAs. And, yes, Trump has many more enthusiastic voters than Biden does and they are willing to stand out in the rain for hours to vote for him while many on the left will think it is too much trouble to fill out a paper ballot and mail it in to vote for Biden.

 

Of course that is the case. About Trumps following . The polls are what they are.
The question remains: What is it about him that is so appealing?? His disregard for others? ( unless they kowtow to him), the law?? tear apart the systems in existence?? His vile language?? His rebellious and juvenile nature?? Maybe thigs have deteriorated so far that now he truly is a representative of the American state of mind.
As someone once said: Trump IS AMERICA.

The old America is gone.

 

None of it incriminates Joe.

You only think so because it emboldens your hatred of Joe Biden.

Oh, I don't give a hoot about the investigations. Republicans are incompetent.

Hell, they spent four years and 8 investigations on Hillary, can't expect much better on Biden.

This is what Repubs do. They hunger like jackals to get something on a Democrat and can't find the right tree to bark up on. They are clowns.

They just can't figure out that Dems aren't the bad guys.

Republicans are

but we sure as hell can't expect a Republican to admit it. Cheney did. Kinzinger Did. Flake did. Some on the right do, but they are rare.

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why risk democracy if that risk can be avoided? You're not making sense.

Maybe, maybe not.

I can see arguments for and against as to how they will vote.