Almost half of all Britons think children are becoming 'feral': Shock survey reveals how we're turning our backs on youngsters Children' charity Barnardo's fear well behaved children are being stigmatised by a tiny minority Too many British adults would 'walk away' from a mother struggling with youngsters in public Continental Europe attitudes lead to fewer child deaths and lower child protection figures British adults are turning their backs on children and young people and see them as violent animals who are beyond help, according to children's charity Barnardos. A recent survey of more than 2,000 people found almost half believe British youngsters are becoming 'feral' and 'behaving like animals' while a worrying ten per cent believe that badly behaved children over the age of 10 are 'beyond help'. The charity has drawn comparisons between Britain and continental Europe where people are said to be far more supportive of youngsters and parents more willing to help each other out within their communities. Grim outlook: A survey by children's charity Barnardos has revealed a depressing state-of-affairs where huge numbers of British adults see youngsters as 'animals', 'feral' and 'beyond help' Grim outlook: A survey by children's charity Barnardo's has revealed a depressing state-of-affairs where huge numbers of British adults see youngsters as 'animals', 'feral' and 'beyond help' In countries such as Spain, children are seen as everyone's responsibility while in Britain adults have become judgemental and less ready to step in if they notice a mother struggling to cope, they claim. More... Betrayal of the family: Despite all those Tory promises, fathers and grandparents will still be denied the right to see children after a divorce Adopted children will be given priority for primary school places and all offers will be made on same day A million British under-13s use Facebook every day The charity points to figures which show that in continental Europe there are fewer child deaths and fewer numbers of children taken into child protection. Barnardos chief executive Anne Marie Carrie said: 'It is depressing that so many people are ready to give up on children, writing them off as animals and feral. 'What hope is there for childhood in the UK today if this is how adults think?' Tarred with the same brush: While only a tiny proportion of children took part in the recent riots across London and other urban areas, Anne Marie Carrie, the head of Barnardo's, believes all children are at risk of being stigmatised Tarred with the same brush: While only a tiny proportion of children took part in the recent riots across London and other urban areas, Anne Marie Carrie, the head of Barnardo's, believes all children are at risk of being stigmatised Ms Carrie believes that children who behave well, working hard at school, volunteering for charity or joining groups like the Brownies or the Cubs are being stigmatised by a small minority who behave badly. She points to the recent riots in London and other urban areas, where only a tiny proportion of children took part, as an example of how people's views can be distorted. Chief executive of Barnardo's, Anne Marie Carrie, hopes attitudes in Britain can become more like those in continental Europe Chief executive of Barnardo's, Anne Marie Carrie, hopes attitudes in Britain can become more like those in continental Europe She added: 'We seem to have forgotten the fact that most children are well behaved and instead we are unquestionably accepting a stereotype of young people as criminal and revolting. 'We arent asking people to put up with yobbish behaviour, but we do need to change our attitudes towards troubled children. The small minority of children who come across as angry and abusive have sadly often been scarred by their upbringing. 'But its never too late to believe in children and change their life story it doesnt have to end how it began.' ICM Research reveals that the public holds a negative view of all children, despite the majority being well behaved, attending school, taking part in activities and a significant number contributing to their communities and volunteering. Barnardos argues that the difficult behaviour of youngsters in contact with the youth justice system needs to be tackled more effectively pointing to the numbers who have experienced troubled upbringings or who have speech or language difficulties. Evidence shows that the sort of whole family approaches Barnardos runs which challenge and support parents and their children to face up to their behaviour and accept responsibility for their actions have a major impact. Life Story will premiere across the Channel 4 network, after 8.20pm, on Thursday, November 3 and will run until Friday, November 18. Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...itons-think-children-feral.html#ixzz1cgvA94jQ http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2057028/Almost-half-Britons-think-children-feral.html Do continental Europeans raise better children? Are they more religious and less self-centered? _
Increasing "diversity" no doubt has something to do with it. Read this thread: http://www.politicalforum.com/healt...hanging-attitudes-towards-helping-others.html When a society is more diverse, the members of society tend to care less about their fellow members, leading to deterioration of social cohesion. Japan, which is a relatively homogeneous society (since it has very restrictive immigration policy) is an excellent example of the excellent social cohesion that is possible when there is a lack of diversity. Despite rising levels of poverty in the last two decades, crime rates are very low. There was absolutely no looting after the tsunami. Imagine how much crime and looting there would be if a tsunami hit London! This post reminds me of the period of the Industrial Revolution in Britain that Karl Marx wrote about in "Das Kapital". Marx wrote how many of the working class children were reduced to animal-like existences. He also wrote about an oversupply of workers, "the army of the unemployed", that suppressed wages to bare subsistence levels. I fear this will happen again as Britain takes on so many migrants from impoverished third-world countries. Britain has come a long way since the days of Karl Marx. Are Britons really willing to give up all the social progress that they have achieved over the last 140 years?
The EU nations seem to be bringing in foreign labor to give the welfare state a supposed tax boost. This is the solution to making raising native children so bloody expensive. Decadence plays a role as well. _
Another racist/anti-Euro thread from the old boys? The situation you describe is not prevalent in UK and is not race designated but where it is prevalent, it is a result of capitalist enslavement of the people. People have been dragged into the capitalist dream of having just enough to keep them too busy to notice what is really important. They have been forced into working, both parents working, often long hours, for the materialist dream and there is no longer priority given to nuclear family structure, thus children are not raised by parents but by strangers. This disfunction is the result of adherence to capitalist dogma. And it is the only result which can ever arise from a system which puts profit before people. Europeans don't "raise better children". Thanks to capitalist greed, they don't raise their children. Europeans are not more religious. Church attendance in UK has decreased. Who has time for religion or family, when he must continually work the clock round and then fall into bed exhausted? Man does not live by bread alone, under capitalist enslavement man does not "live" at all.
How is voluntarily trading your labor for a set hourly price "slavery"? The parents can quit working and live on the dole, not like there is any stigma to it anymore over there.
Nothing to debate in that facile comment. It is not possible to "live" on the dole. It is a bare subsistence allowance. Despite the continued spam campaign against Europe/socialism and UK in particular (who cares why) the genuinely unemployed struggle on benefits. The non-existent easy life that people like yourself try to conjure up, is total fabrication. Benefits stop people from starving. That is the extent of it.
This seems like a stretch to me.. frequently new immigrant families are more committed to education, work ethic and family values than long time citizens.. and I don't think the problem is inherently British.. From the obnoxious and violent settler children in the occupied territories to the young toughs dropping bricks off US overpasses (or shopping carts off 4 story buildings) to the swaggering 18 year armed old punks roaming Tripoli.. there are a good many young people who are thoughtless with out regard for property or humanity.
It allows plenty to sit at home smoke, drink, watch Sky TV, take taxis or run cars, but never, in the case of parents, to read to their offspring or even teach them the basics of going to the toilet by themselves, whilst taxpayers must pay for them and accommodate the immigrants who are brought into to undertake the jobs they aren't prepared to do. I feel sorry for people who genuinely can't get a job, but I don't have an ounce of sympathy of the idle. The welfare state was never designed to be the burden it has become. William Beveridge must be spinning in his grave!
I can see your ear is to the ground there, Tamora. Anyone who can do those things funded purely by benefits is a miracle worker and you know it. Didn't have ignorant racism down as one of your finer qualities either, but there you go, your post says different. It seems unlikely, based on the previous comments. The Welfare State was born at a time when people were as poverty stricken and the economy as strained as it is now. Is it a good time to malign the system when things are plainly about to worsen?
I work in a so called deprived area and every week I meet people who claim benefits who have every intention of continuing to do so for as long as they can, so yes, I do have my ear to the ground, and those people are not miracle workers, believe me. And in what way am I an 'ignorant racist'? Please quote what you saw in my post, or any other post, that suggests that, and make it good because that's two very nasty, uncalled for accusations you've made there. Which previous comments? Again, please quote me. Would it make you feel better if I told you I think the genuinely sick, weak and injured should receive more help? The economy was not strained by idle benefits claimants and mass immigration then as it is now, nor was it ever designed to be. (Do you know how Beveridge felt about the unemployed?) The system is one of the things breaking the country, so never has there been a better time to address the problems it has caused.
This is certainly true in the UK. But unfortunately it is not true for all the asylum seekers that Sweden has taken on. Most of the refugees that come to Sweden are not working 10 years after their arrival. While they live in very modest conditions, the government still provides them with a free apartment, and a small allowance for food and bus transportation. They also get free medical treatment and free university. Many in Sweden are outraged by this, but it is considered "racist" to say anything openly. Unemployment benefits in the USA are laughable. It is not even subsistence, and it permanently runs out after 182 days, although the government has temporarily extended it to 693 days because of the unemployment crisis. Despite this, many people's benefits have run out and they are starving on the streets (as you may have guessed the country has has grossly inadequate homeless shelters that are more like overcrowded warehouses with people sleeping on top of eachother, and most of them kick the homeless out after 6 months) Just to clarify, that 182 day allowance is for someones entire life. If you use up 100 days, then find a job, then 10 years later you are dismissed from your job, you will only have 82 days left!
