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Discussion in 'Gun Control' started by stayingconfused, Sep 22, 2014.

  1. stayingconfused

    stayingconfused New Member

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    That believes it will be a matter of timing before we are attacked full bore. The second ammendment states the right to bare arms. I don't believe it will be long before they come along and tell us how many we are allowed to bare. Once they have us on a limit like the stores do on ammo along will come laws stating no more than one gun per family. Once that takes place I believe the terrorist will take advantage of the situation. Am I crazy or does anyone else think this may happen?
     
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    Texan Well-Known Member

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    I don't think they have the guts to try something like that across the nation. It might fly in NY or CA, but most red states wouldn't put up with it. What you are talking about would require mass chaos and martial law. I don't think the US would hold together under those conditions.

    My state constitution says that I have the right to bear arms in the defense of myself or the state.
     
  3. Battle3

    Battle3 Well-Known Member

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    Of course they will take any opportunity to try to impose severe restrictions and outright bans across the nation. What did they do after Sandy Hook? Before the kids bodies were in the ground Feinstein trotted out her expanded version of the 1994 ban. As they were playing a PR smear campaign on so-called "assault weapons" they were also starting to call bolt action hunting rifles with scopes "sniper rifles".

    Don't be lulled by the banners. They hate guns and gun owners, and even when they are biding their time waiting for the opportune PR moment to unleash their attack, their primary thought is to ban all firearms.

    And Texas is in the crosshairs. The 2nd Amendment, and your state constitution, mean nothing to the banners. They are flooding Texas with illegals and dumping millions in cash into Texas politics in a long term bid to turn Texas "progressive". Austin is already full of "intellectual" progs, Houston is full of minority progs who are bought and paid for, San Antonio is full of illegal progs, even Dallas is turning. Their plan is to destroy Texas from within.
     
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    rwild1967 Banned at Members Request Past Donor

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    Never gonna happen.


    Bear arms. Bare arms means no sleeves.
     
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    Pardy Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What's the problem? Are 300 million guns in the USA not enough?
     
  6. stayingconfused

    stayingconfused New Member

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    Hey sorry. In my new member post I stated I was not the winner of a spelling bee and this dog gone auto correct kills me sometimes. I will work on it.

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    You mean the 300 million you will be hiding behind when it hits the fan.
     
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    rwild1967 Banned at Members Request Past Donor

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    No criticism meant, just pointing it out is all.
     
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    Regular Joe Well-Known Member

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    The GC crowd is unrelenting and determined. There is a conflict brewing here, but if/when it happens, I expect that there will be too many dissenters within the ranks of US forces to act against the Constitution.
    What this Country needs to do, more than anything, is to cleanse our Gov. of corruption. If that effort ever gets going, it could be the cause of civil "unrest".
     
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    Steady Pie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Without question, within the next few decades you'll end up with a gun policy resembling ours: no pistols over .45ACP, no rifles over .338 Lapua, semi-auto licenses technically available but never handed out, a requirement to show a "genuine reason", no open or concealed carry.

    And we'll move to something like what the UK has: you keep your guns at the range, not much over .22 rimfire.

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    There really is no hope for us. We're sticking around in this limbo, knowing we've only got 40 years or so left.
     
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    Steady Pie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Not a question of how many are enough, it should be entirely up to the state to show coercive intent beyond a reasonable doubt. If they can't meet that burden then they should not interfere in your purchase of a firearm.

    Trust me, you do not want to move to Australian style policy. I am treated like a criminal for doing absolutely nothing wrong, the police use the license to discourage use, and put up fees 54% each year.


    I'd encourage you to get down the range with one of your friends who shoots.
     
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    Pardy Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    When what hits the fan? Do you mean the war you want? Count me out.

    What tyranny!

    Why? Do guns solve problems? I'm as good of a shot as any of my friends.
     
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    Toefoot Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Spoken like a true elitist. Pardy, I am thankful you have only one vote and in the minority.

     
  13. Steady Pie

    Steady Pie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Glad you understand.

    Guns solve many problems - like boredom, but that's beside the point. It's good to know you're a good shot - I find that for most people, a trip to the range makes them pro-gun liberty, but there are always exceptions such as yourself.
     
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    Pardy Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Kneel before Zod!

    No, I don't. Please tell me how Australia faces tyranny. Is it because of guns?
     
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    Toefoot Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Spineless progressives repulsive and weak.
     
  16. Steady Pie

    Steady Pie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Our gun policy you mean? Absolutely, that's a component of it.

    I dislike being treated like a child and having to break the law to live the way I please, while hurting nobody. The entire system is set up to make ownership so onerous that nobody tries, it's ridiculously expensive, has absurd restrictions (for instance, nothing over .45, even .338 Lapua is very rarely licensed. The process takes forever for no discernable benefit, but worse than any of that - it's set up to target innocent parties. It's designed to target innocents: people like myself, sport shooters.

    It's enlightening to have an interest regulated by a branch of the police that tries wherever possible to expand restrictions, even going so far as to exceed their powers granted by already permissive legislation, and getting caught out on it in court. Not a pleasant feeling, let me tell you.

    Of course, this is but one component that only 5% of Australians have to deal with as gun owners, but it remains nonetheless.

    There are a myriad of other issues, many of them shared with the US: totalitarian drug policy, no gay marriage, expensive and deadly foreign intervention, mountains of regulation, theft of a quarter of everything we produce, etc.

    Many of them you can avoid through black markets and becoming a "criminal", like drug policy, gun policy, etc - others are simply unavoidable, like foreign intervention, the lack of gay marriage, etc.
     
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    You gun toters could probably just go out and shoot those tyrannical government people. After all, that's what you claim the 2A is all about.
     
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    You guys do realize that concealed carry is both more widespread and more easily acquired than ever right? IIRC every state now has some kind of readily available CCW and even places like Chicago are jumping on the band-wagon.

    I think this whole thread is nothing but right-wing paranoia.
     
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    Toefoot Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You might want to look at the National Flags of the poster and educate yourself with that nations laws. This statement below also demonstrates your paranoia.

     
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    rwild1967 Banned at Members Request Past Donor

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    I saw that but he's talking gloom and doom crap about how our nation is gonna make the same poor choices his did and we are obviously and verifiably not.
     
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    Your crazy.

    Thats okay though, as long as you don't start thinking everyone is a terrorist.
     
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    What a very naive little mindset you have. While there are those who appear to be blatantly bad, like Yee of CA., the CONUS and the better parts of our legal system make it clear how we need to go about finding and prosecuting these bad apples. "Gun toters" you say. I hope you can attain a little better maturity in your views.
     
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    The Feds did nothing but posturing after Sandy Hook. Blue states took advantage of the hype, but red states did not.

    Texas May be on the Democrat's wish list, but Republicans still hold a 2/3 majority and the tea party is forcing them to lean hard to the right with primary challengers.
     
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    At the national level, the banners tried and were trounced, but don't think they have given up. They failed that time in one arena - the legislative arena - but they won't quit. If they can't get the votes, they will try the courts, executive orders, regulatory crackdowns.

    Texas is conservative today, but there is no guarantee it will remain so. I grew up in Texas and remember when Texas was not only conservative but so independent at times it didn't seem to be fully a part of the USA. It was God, Texas, family, and then the USA. Texas isn't the same today - just look at Austin.

    I remember when Arizona (the home state of Barry Goldwater!) was deeply conservative, and California was solidly conservative (Ronald Reagan's home state). Due to "progressives" long term activities, California is lost and Arizona is going quickly (this illegal immigration surge will be the final straw for AZ - and if obama gives them amnesty it will be the end of Texas as well). "progressives" work one county at a time, killing from within. Texas conservatives better stay on the ball or they are going the way of CA and AZ.
     
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    No.....as long as there are gun grabbers you can't have enough guns.

    And the more those gun grabbers push.....more the reason to have more guns.
     

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