America is abandoning rationality to justify illegal immigration

Discussion in 'Immigration' started by Lil Mike, Mar 16, 2023.

  1. Lil Mike

    Lil Mike Well-Known Member

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    This is one of your more weird "you got played."

    You complained that the article had 72,000 deportations in 2022, and you then produced a chart showing "encounters" not deportations. If you don't think the article is accurate, feel free to produce a chart showing actual deportations.
     
  2. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    yes, republicans are right, but them telling the whole world only made them come

    now republicans and democrats need to make a bipartisan bill to address the problem republican created
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    lol, @Republicans, careful what you wish for

    "To keep immigrants from fleeing, Florida GOP focus on immigration law loopholes"

    https://www.npr.org/2023/06/07/1180646146/florida-immigration-law-sb-1718-republican-lawmakers

    "Florida Republicans who voted to pass the state's imminent anti-immigration law are trying to curb a potentially disastrous mass exodus of undocumented residents by touting the legislation's many "loopholes.""

    "GOP Rep. Rick Roth, a third generation farmer, told NPR on Tuesday that state Senate Bill 1718, which goes into effect on July 1, was designed to "scare migrants." But he admitted that he and his colleagues were unprepared for the destabilization it would cause among the state's more established immigrant communities."
     
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    Pro_Line_FL Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I did, but apparently it didn't sink in since you think it was just encounters. Oh, well, another opinion piece shot down.
     
  5. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Republicans want the cheap labor, that is why they are against legalization, but they really do want them here, what is happening in Florida shows us that
     
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    modernpaladin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    How do think 'Republicans' should've brought attention to the problem without 'telling the world'? Is there a secret 'United Statesians Only' chat that no one told them about?
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    well, Republicans are addressing it in Florida... lol

    seriously though, dems and repubs were working on a bipartisan deal under Trump, Trump should have run with it

    republican could have got much of what they wanted in return for DACA
     
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    modernpaladin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I dont really think the govt should be doing anything without substantial input from the The People. That necessitates a lot of public 'noise' about the issue. We were never going to get anything done about the problem without making noise about the problem first.

    You cant legitimately place the blame for a problem on the people calling to fix the problem.
     
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    and they been getting a lot of input, but neither side is doing anything

    the people want DACA and reduced immigration, where is the bill?
     
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  10. Lil Mike

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    It literally said that.

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    Not suggesting it should. But if someone is thinking of complaining about how the numbers are going up they should at least check their facts first.
     
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    Look at the image which you did not edit, and learn what it actually said. Or don't. Who cares. Everyone else saw the unedited version.
     
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    MORE YOUNG PEOPLE?????? More freaks with purple hair? More guys in dresses? More dopers? More flash mobs? More BLM'ers? More riots? More burning police cars? More freeloaders in mom's basement? More sexually wacked mutants? More radical socialist bums?

    Yeah... just what we need....
     
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    if there is a problem, it's on Congress to come up with a bipartisan deal

    course we have to be careful, what's happening in Florida is an example of what we do not want - the GOP is backpedaling there now
     
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    Sounds like what old people were saying about the boomers 60 years ago.
     
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    Sorry, 60 years ago it was just rock and roll music, and war protests. It wasn't living like a parasite in mom's basement, sexual confusion, and violence. Nope. It was pretty innocuous 60 years ago. It didn't wreck a society 60 years ago. It was just obnoxious, unlike today.
     
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    Old people didn't think it was innocuous.
     
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    Pro_Line_FL Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Lot of people would say it did wreck the society, and we are still living in the division which started in the 60s. Evangelicals could have sworn we were living in the end-days and the rapture was going to happen any time. Vietnam, riots, draft, drugs, overdoses, sexual immorality, political assassinations (three of them), war in Israel, race riots, NG gunning down students, Detroit on flames, Chicago political violence, Bay Of Pigs, Cuban nuclear crises, cold war and fear of nuclear holocaust, you name it. And yes, lot of people living in their mom's basements, and others escaping the US into Canada. It was a decade of chaos and it divided the enation and also nearly bankrupted it.

    Right. The WW-II generation wondered where the went wrong. There is a saying:

    “Hard times create strong men. Strong men create good times. Good times create weak men. And, weak men create hard times.”

    Hard times = 1930s depression and WW2 in 1940s
    Good times = 1950s
    Weak men = 1960s, 1970s to today

    So, we are living in period of weak men, but the really hard times has not yet arrived. We have lot of people complaining about everything today even thought this is far from hard times, which only proves we are still in period of 'weak men'. This is the 4th generation of weak men. Or are we simply living in normal times? Gen-X are not weak, millennials seem to have pulled themselves together.

     
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    My parents did. My dad (a WWII veteran) used to say that his generation stuffed telephone booths and wore raccoon coats. My generation marched in the streets and my son's generation, in search of SOMETHING to have as a cause, did all that silly "save the whales" stuff. He said it was all pretty harmless, specifically saying that no real damage was done and there was no real violence. It was all pretty innocuous.

    Today's wokists burning down towns from La Mesa to Kenosha, from Milwaukee to Baltimore, and from Seattle to Ferguson... while mobs of thieves force closings of retail stores from coast to coast... is a whole different deal.
     
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    The last 10 years have nothing on the 1970s as far as violent protests go.

    https://time.com/4501670/bombings-of-america-burrough/
     
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    If you throw in racial disorder in the 70's you are correct. But we weren't talking about that. We were talking about youth movements alone.
    NOTE: I know liberals can's have a discussion about Saltines without dragging racism into the conversation, so I expect you will be unable to separate the 70's peaceful anti-war demonstrations (like Moratorium Day in DC in 1971) from the "race riots" which burned whole blocks of cities to the ground.
     
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    Youth movements today are far more tame than they were in the 60s and 70s.

    You just hate it because now you are an old man who wants the kids off your lawn.
     
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    That is simply not true. Youth didn't burn whole sections of cities down as today's youth have in Kenosha, Ferguson, Baltimore, Seattle and LaMesa. What you say isn't true. Gangs of violent youthful "flash mobs" didn't loot stores out of business in the 60's and 70's as we are seeing today in cities like San Francisco.

    What you clai simply isn't true. I lived in the 60's and 70's and saw the difference between then and now.

    It has no more to do with kids on anyone's lawn than murder has to do with jaywalking.
     
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    What percentage of "the youth" do you think have participated in burning stuff ?
     
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    Why do you claim the protests / riots back then were peaceful, when some were off the chats violent? Detroit riot in 1967 resulted in 43 deaths, 1,189 injured, over 7,200 arrests, and more than 400 buildings destroyed (literally burned to the ground). Heck they had Army tanks and 101st and 82nd Airborne on the ground (16 KIA, 493 wounded), or Kent State shooting, or riots in Chicago in -68 and -69.

    Have we had even one riot yet this year? Last year? The year before last? I dont think so.

    I don't' get people who behave like the world is coming to an end when there is nothing going on.

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