Then it would be easy for you to show once what the lie is, but instead you evade and make more unsubstantiated claims.
Here is one that was convenient to grab. http://www.politicalforum.com/abortion/191580-america-wises-up-slowly-part-2-a-31.html#post4602469 I showed you that a zygotes is defined as an organism when the organism is a single cell.
ROFL .. did you bother to click on the link for where that definition comes from ? It comes from Wiki LOL OL OL
No, you misrepresented as usual. If there were any validity to your claim you would have the courage to post the definition of an organism. You are so hung up on definitions and all of a sudden, when a definition contradicts you, you avoid it like the plague. If that is not hypocrisy, nothing is.
Obviously if there were any such definition, you wuold have posted it by now. You are just a sad little troll.
You know well that there is and you were the one making the assertion of a zygote being an organism. I asked for proof which of course you never provide. The question was quite simple: Show what an organism is and why a zygote qualifies as one. The cowardly evasion and lies is what you provided and to bolster those pathetic attempt now you are resorting to name calling.
Still nothing, huh. Pathetic that you sqwawk so loudly but offer nothing to back up your screetching nonsense. Educate yourself!!!! http://www.politicalforum.com/abortion/191580-america-wises-up-slowly-part-2-a-27.html#post4591855
You find it difficult to comprehend that in order to determine if A fits into category X or is like X, first one has to define X, then see how or what A has in common with X. In this discussion X is an organism and you still have evaded defining what an organism is yet are claiming that the zygote is one. Posting links to misleading claims by you is not proof of anything but your evasion. Care to post what an organism is now and put this to rest?
You find it hard to understand that the adult descriptors of an organism do not apply to organisms in earlier stages of development. Whether you understand it or not, it is still true. READ my post from earlier. It clearly describes the zygote as the organism when it is in the single celled form. End of story. Again, educate yourself: " Zygote is the first stage in the development process of an organism. It is produced of the process of fertilization occurring amongst the haploid ovum cell from the female and the haploid sperm cell from the male. Both these two cells combine to form the sole diploid cell or the zygote. It is the carrier of the DNA and all the genetic traits derived from the parents. The zygote provides all the genetic information indispensable for the growth of the new organism." http://www.differencebetween.net/science/difference-between-zygote-and-embryo/
There is not adult description of organism, only organism. What characteristics does a zygote have that make it an organism? You have reading comprehension problems. If the zygote was an organism, the sentence would read: The zygote is an organism in its earliest stages of development. Ask someone to explain this difference to you as it is clear that it is beyond your grasp. In the mean time look up what an organism is.
Well now you just look more ignorant! Obviously you have the isues. This is what my originally posted link says: "A zygote (or zygocyte) is a term in Developmental biology used to describe the first stage of a new unique organism when it consists of just a single cell"
"Quote: Originally Posted by Whaler17 I showed you that a zygotes is defined as an organism when the organism is a single cell. " You- "No, you misrepresented as usual. ...." __________________ Actual quote from my earlier posted link: "A zygote (or zygocyte) is a term in Developmental biology used to describe the first stage of a new unique organism when it consists of just a single cell. " So please discontinue the lying please!
Is this really the best rebuttal you can produce? How about actually showing something relevant? Oh, how about the definition of an organism?
All you have to do is read. I'm sorry I cannot express it to you in pictures, but you will have to read the posts to understand this one.
What is accurate is the link I gave you to the commentary of a Prof in Biology at the University of Miami that teaches this stuff (a subject matter expert in what an organism is and what a homo sapien is) This Prof claimed that a zygote is not an organism, nor is it a homo sapien. Wiki is wiki .. anyone can go in and change anything. I will take the word of the numerous Ph.D biologists and techical papers I have presented which give explanation for the "why" the position taken over your wiki definition which lacks both providence and explanation the subject matter.
There is nothing to read. For something to be considered an organism we have to know what an organism is. It is really that simple. What is the problem you have with that?
SO you refuse to read the definition of a zygote. OK then, fair enough it is a free country, just don't act like you know anything about the subject in your ignorant state.
Reading the definition of a zygote does not tell us what makes it an organism, IF in fact it is one. "The first stage of development of an organism" is vague at best and it does not define a zygote as an organism. But clearly you are avoiding the definition of an organism. WHY IS THAT? WHAT ARE YOU AFRAID OF? If a zygote is an organism you have nothing to fear. You may actually learn what makes a zygote an organism and help you crawl out of YOUR state of ignorance.
Well, I read your definition and found it wanting. It is from Wiki (meaining anyone can go in and change it) and the reference is from embryology. Did you read the definition that I gave you ? This definition is from someone who is actually qualified to state what an organism is, or isnt, and this definition contradicts yours. Which is right ?
"qualified"? Oh dood you are funny! Of course you found it "wanting" ! You will stop at nothing to make sure abortion homicide is legal and available to any would be killer out there.
To the contrary. I addressed your source and refuted it. It is you that has not addressed my source nor refuted it. No need to start making up stuff about me on the basis of false premises and logical fallacy. Do try and address this commentary by a Ph.D Biologist Dana Kremples who teaches Evolution and Biodiversity, Botany, Zoology, and Genetics at the University of Miami. She explains why the zygote is not an organism nor a homo sapien. .
