Americans' IQ Declining for First Time in Almost a Century, Study Finds

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  1. MelshieMaze

    MelshieMaze Well-Known Member

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    That's all true, except it isn't especially the nuke part because IIRC Trump was the main one siding with Putin over Ukraine and claiming he'd end the war.
     
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    MelshieMaze Well-Known Member

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    Quite a few actually. I was amazed to see the sheer number of adults who didn't (and still don't) know **** about basic science.
     
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    Trump never sided with Putin on anything. Pure BS propaganda. Putin was never talking nukes when Trump was around, but North Korea was. Trump got North Korea to commit to ending nuke and ICBM testing and they stopped... until Biden took office.
    Putin didn't invade Ukraine until after Biden was in office, BTW.
     
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    You just described every body that trusts what the government tells them.
     
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    Does that include questioning everything science tells you or just believing whatever you're told?
     
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    I agree-but the democrats have yet to field such a person
     
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    LoL "oil companies control the price of oil".

    Jesus Christ.
     
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    And that post is clear evidence that what you understand about economic reality and much else could be written in large print on a small postage stamp uth room left over for a micro copy of war and peace. For openers oil companies do not operate in a vacuum.
     
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    The participation in this thread is a great example of the thread's premise.
     
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    Nope he said he'd stop the war and he did nor did he side with Putin. His energy policies simply kept the price of oil too low for Putin to fund his war.
     
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    And folks that delay have children have children with a higher incidence of autism,
    And folks that have children while they are younger have a lower incidence of autism.
     
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    It sounds about right. Give this simple logical question to Americans and millions will fail, even on this forum.

    The following people said there was no evidence of election fraud:

    More than 50 judges
    Attorney General William Barr (nominated by President Trump).
    Georgia Gov. Brian Kemp and Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger, both Republicans didn't find any election fraud, even after President Trump begged them for a ½ hour to find the ‘winning votes’.
    Christopher A. Wray, Director of the FBI (Appointed by President Trump).
    Christopher Krebs, director of the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency
    Vice President Pence
    Some GOP Senators and Congressmen

    President Trump claims there was election fraud in 2020. He raised $250 million to find the ultimate proof that the elections were stolen, but instead of looking for the fraud evidence, he decided to keep the money and make more speeches blaming Democrats for stealing the 2020 election.

    Question: was there election fraud?
     
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    Oh, is THAT why the war is still going on in its 2nd year?
     
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    No more than presidents do.
     
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    Not sure about questioning, but I know that if you claim the 5G "creates" viruses out of nothing and then can't accurately explain how that's possible when asked, then maybe you aren't fit to talk about anything science related. Hell, even a basic middle school class would teach you that.
     
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    Elsewhere at some point I read that it was 5-7 points a decade, decline. I hope it's education, as simply going back to what worked better is an easier to implement solution than if it's the explosion of Autism driving a significant portion of this decline. The splinter skills you are talking about are those remarkable individuals who have ASD (Autism Spectrum Disorder) and a high IQ, and I have met some that I find fascinating, but, that's the bright side of ASD, there is also a much more heartbreaking experience of young people struggling terribly through no fault of their own.

    But, 5-7 points a decade is significant, the first decade it was noticed was 2006, so, we are a couple of steps into a negative trend, that reverses a century trend of the confident expectation that the younger people stepping into the workforce had higher IQ's than the folks who are leaving.
    I'm expecting this to result in an overall awakening of the fact that we are not serving our young people as well as can or should along with a general recommitment to greater excellence in education.
     
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    That was kind of the premise of the movie Idiocracy.
     
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    I missed that one. I never gave it much thought until I went to my 25th reunion at Yale and saw so many of my classmates with small children. I thought I was an outlier-my one son was born just after I turned 39 but that seemed almost normal with the group I attended college with.
     
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    I wouldn't call the movie a masterpiece but it was fun to watch. I think it may be gaining some cult status. I don't see it available on Netflix but it may be on some other streaming services. It is a scifi movie about the near future based on the premise of what you said.

    https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0387808/
     
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    Here is the opening of Idiocracy. As you can see it is pretty much based on what you said.

     
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    This was confirmed by Biden's vote count.
     
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    a bit over the top but hilarious
     
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    It can effect the results of IQ test, because those tests were created by and for people with a conventional western education. The fundamental principle of IQ means it wouldn't be directly altered by education by definition.
     
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    It’s worth watching. I watched it for the first time a couple months ago. Prophetically, it’s on par with “1984” and “Brave New World”.
     
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    Reducing standards, EQUITY, AA in college acceptance, and breakdown of the family certainly hasn’t helped.

    Woke leftist ideology and DEI is at the core of what is ruining eduction and our culture.
     
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