The enablers of radical Islam in government, academia and the media regularly dismiss protectionists' warnings. They have either never heard of, don’t want to know about, or don’t want you to know about, the Assembly of Muslim Jurists of America (AMJA). When you read the eye-popping column below, posted by Andrew Bostom, you’ll be reminded why the willful blindness of the enablers of radical Islam is so dangerous. We should take little comfort in the ruling of an AMJA jurist (quoted below), who writes (referring to the Muslim community in America): “The Islamic community does not possess the strength to engage in offensive jihad at this time.” In the overall defense of the United States, and as a crux of National Security this article > Mainstream American Muslim Jurists’ Blueprint for Undermining America’s Legal System, March 14th, 2012 by Andrew Bostom, should be read in it's entirety, including the very valuable links to the information provided by the writer known simply as "Translating Jihad". As Translating Jihad notes in his introductory summary of the newly translated 2007 AMJA paper, it : "…provides guidelines for American Muslims on what they can and cannot do vis-à-vis infidel legal systems. The paper makes clear that according to Islam, the only legitimate law is that which comes from Allah, and in fact authority to make laws rests with Allah alone. This renders every other legal system—including the American system—illegitimate." http://www.andrewbostom.org/blog/20...eprint-for-undermining-americas-legal-system/ http://www.translatingjihad.com/
So what? They have a right to believe stupid things, and even to advocate for them. We have a Constitution that protects us (or is supposed to...) from religion in government. They're no closer to implementing Islamic law in the United States than I am to being named Supreme Dictator of the World.
I'm not going to get into another discussion with you about Islamic law in the US. I found your comments on that subject to be too far from correct to even warrant an honest debate. Believe whatever you wish. You might note though, that the people we're talking about are the same ones who have vowed to destroy the Constitution "that protects us", and if you think you are knowledgeable enough to talk about how close they are to doing that, I have an Islamization quiz that you can take to prove it. Want to take it ?
Because I don't ascribe to your hysteria about a supposed Islamic takeover of the United States? How close they are to destroying the Constitution? Islamists? People like you who insist on panting hysterics against supposed terror threats from supposed "Islamists" are much more likely to destroy our Constitution, and are far closer to actually doing it. Witness only your warrantless wiretaps, TSA screenings, indefinite detentions, and "Patriot" Act provisions for proof. I am far more worried about an overreaching government than I am about a tiny number of religious extremeists.
You are so ignorant on this subject that you don't even know who or what I'm talking about. You answered about "terror" threats. Yes, indeed, there are those for sure, but I was talking about the NON-violent side of the jihad picture. The Muslim Brotherhood. Well-established in 80 countries, well organized, heavily financed, operating hundreds of front organizations in the USA (CAIR, ISNA, MAS, MSA, ICNA, MPAC, IIIT, NAIF, NAIT, FCNA, MAYA, AEF, UASR, BMI, IMANA, AMSE, IFMI, GSISS, IIFTIKHAR, AMSS, IRO, ADAMS, IANA, MWL, WAMY, MYNA, AMT, IIFSO, AMCE, AMAFVAC, CISNA, etc, etc.) And your use of words further reveals your ignorance on this subject. "Tiny number" ? For you edification, when it comes to subversion, Muslim Brotherhood style, numbers aren't the name of the game. The key elements are organization, money, political influence, use of the court system (with "judge shopping"), and various other clever methodologies that the "Brothers" never seem to fail to devise anew. As for what you call "panting hysterics", when you can show that you have even a rudimentary knowledge of this subject (every other Islamapologist I have challenged has flunked totally), I will discuss this with you. Show that by taking the Islamization Quiz, or else concede you're no better than all the others, and just as unqualified to be making value judgements of what you know little or nothing about.
And your alphabet soup of so-called Islamic takeover groups has accomplished what? You are in hysterics over a threat that does not exist.
And the far right. I think both are more dangerous to us than a religion of people who are barely climbing out of the third world.
You have conceded that you're no better than all the others, and just as unqualified to be making value judgements of what you know little or nothing about. The Muslim Brotherhood organizations have been accomplishing Stealth Jihad (AKA Islamization) for over 20 years now in the US (longer in Europe). To answer your question, I would need to write 10 books (about 3000 pages) here, supplying thousands of footnotes. Instead, here's a reading list for you. Come back a couple of months from now, AFTER you get a good grounding in the subject matter, and have become able to discuss it. For now, nobody cares about your pointless, hot air, empty proclamations. And before you resort to the typical Islamapologist tactic of invalidation of the authors listed, realize that without reading them, the only real invalidation would be your attempted invalidation. 1. They Must Be Stopped by Brigitte Gabriel 2. The Politically Incorrect Guide to Islam (and the Crusades) by Robert Spencer 3. Stealth Jihad by Robert Spencer 4. Infiltration by Paul Sperry 5. The Day of Islam by Dr. Paul Williams 6. Sharia: the Threat to America by the Center for Security Policy 7. The Third Jihad (DVD) by Dr. Zuddhi Jasser 8. Muslim Mafia by P.David Gaubatz & Paul Sperry Also check these out : http://liberalforum.org/liberalforu.../page__p__2475881__fromsearch__1#entry2475881 http://liberalforum.org/liberalforu.../page__p__2472149__fromsearch__1#entry2472149 http://liberalforum.org/liberalforu...d-public-schools-and-textbooks-major-players/ (Read OP and Post # 43).
You "think" ? Upon what accumulation of knowledge ? Here's your Quiz. Take it and get a 70% grade, or start reading. And no fake answers. I know who/what these are. Every one. IDENTIFY : Names associated with Stealth Jihad (AKA Islamization) Ibin Taamiyah, the Madhi, Sheik Ahmed Yassin, Sami al-Arian, Mazen al-Najjar, Richard A. Clarke, Imam Muzzamil Siddiqui, Susan Douglas, Peter DiGangi, William Bennetta, Gilbert Sewall , Prince Alwaleed bin Talal, al-Hajj Talib'Abur, Rashid Sahmsi Ali, Khalid Latif, Omar Mohammedi, Joe Kaufman, Chantal Carnes, Hasan al-Banna (creator of the Muslim Brotherhood-I'll give you that one), Tariq Ramadan, Siraj Wahhaj, Mozen Mokhtar, Nouman Ali Khan, Abdul Malik , Imam Jamal Badawi, Br. Jawad Ahmad, Hassan Abbas, Mullah Abdul Rashid Ghazi, Sheik Mjed 'Abd al-Rahman al-Firian, Prince Sultan Ibn Abd al-'Aziz, Ali al-Ahmed, Itamar Marcus, Barbara Cook, Muhammad ibn Abd al-Wahhab, Ahmed Omar Abu Ali, Mohammed Osman Idris, Mohammed el-Yacoubi, Abu Abdullah, Baitullah Mehsud, Yunis al-Astal, Zeyno Baran, Aaron Klein, Muhammad Abdel-El, Sheik Yasser Hamad, Nur Mohammad, Ahmed Yassin (deceased), Sheik Abdel Rahman, Sheik Mohammed bin Rashid AL Maktoum, Abdullah Azzam, Fazlur Rehman Khalil , Mohammad Elachmi Hamdi, Bat Ye'or, Max Steenberghe, Anders Fogh Ramussen, Paul Jeeves, Yusuf al-Qarodawi, Bashar al-Assad, Robert S. Leiken, Theo Van Gogh, Michel Gurfinkel, Imam Ahmed Salam, Piet Hein Donner, Miguel Angel Toma , Salah Yassin, Hassan Nasrallah, Ahmed Assad Barakat, Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva, Bashar al-Assad, Adolpho Aguilar Zinser, Joseph Farah, Nabil al-Marabh, Raed Hijazi, David Harris, Syed Mumtaz Ali, Omar Ahmad, Ibrahim Hooper, Sheikh Mubarak Ali Gilani, Dr. Paul Williams , Hassan al Turabi, Clement Rodney Hampton-El, Kevin James, Warner MacKenzie, Sayeed Abdul A'la Maududi, Abdullah Yusef Ali, Mohammed Marmaduke Pickthall, Nessim Joseph Dawood, Mohammed Habib Shakir, Arthur John Arberry, Aqsa Parvez, Atefeh Rajabi, Francis Bok, Michael Coren, Homaidan Ali Al-Turki, Sheik Saleh Al-Fawzan, Paul Marshall, Koenraad Elst, Tom Clancy, Phil Alden Robinson, Michael Graham, Thomas Klocek, Stephen Coughlin, Hasham Islam, Steven Emerson, Mordechai Nisan, Abduraman Alamoudi, Ramadan Abdallah Shallah, Musa Abu Marzook, Keith Ellison, Abdullah al-Arian, ,Jamal-al-Din al-Afghani, James Woolsey, Walid Phares, Guy Rodgers, Brigitte Gabriel, Robert Spencer, Paul Sperry, P.David Gaubatz, Chris Gaubatz, Stefanie Creswell, Charety Zhe, Adnan el-Shukrijumah, Jaffar the Pilot, Mohammad Weiss Rasool, Brian P. Fairchild, Peter M. Leitner, Sergeant Naveed I. Butt, Bill Bratton, William Taylor, Youssef Aboul-Enein, Jamal Barzinji, Ingrid Mattson, Safaa Zarzour, Khalid Iqbal, James "Yousef" Yee, Ahmed Alwani, Taja Alwani, Warith Deen Umar, Tom Harrington, John Guandolo, Patrick Sookhdeo, Gaddoor Saidi, Muhammad Usmani, Mahdi Bray, Ali al-Timimi, Maulana Abdul Ala Maududi, Sayyid Quth, Zaid Shakir, Hamdan al-Shalawi, Muhammed al-Qudhaieen, Omar Shain, Hani Hanjour, Kenneth Williams, Edward Sloan, Ismail Elbarasse, Sheik Omar Abdul-Rahman, George Sadler, Mohammed Akram Adlouni, Zeid al-Noman, Shukri Aby Baker, Mohammad El-Mezain, Ghassan Elashi, Sayyid Syeed, Bassem Osman, Ahmed Elkadi, Mahboob Khan, Suhail Khan, Mufid Abdulgader, Abdelhaleem Ashqar, Frank Gaffney, Sue Myrick, Abuhena Saifulislam, Ali "the American" Mohamed, Juan Zarate, Hisham Altalib, Mohammed Shamma, Ahmad Sakr, Abdullah bin Laden, Mohamed Jamal Khalifah, Ahmad Mohamed Ali, Joey Musmar, Lina Morales. IDENTIFY : Things associated with Stealth Jihad (AKA Islamization) Hijra, jizyah, Istanbul, Al-Quds, Al-Aqsa mosque, , treaty of Al-Hudaybiyah, Oslo Accords, the Mahdi, Al-Ansar, 2006 Pentagon report : "Motivations of Muslim Suicide Bombers" ), "The Project", the Muslim Brotherhood, the Ikhwan, Taqiyya, Da'wa, Council on American Islamic Relations (CAIR), Holy Land Foundation trials - 2007 & 2008, Khalil Gibran Academy, US Treasury Dept. (Office of Foreign Asset Control), Islamic Society of North America (ISNA), Muslim American Society (MSA), United States Counterinsurgency Manual FM 3-24, US Justice Dept. report - 2004, US Justice Dept. report - 2007, abeds, North American Islamic Trust, Islamic Council for North America, United Association for Studies and Research, Muslim American Youth Association, the Hamas Charter, Islamic Academy of Florida, Palestinian Islamic Jihad, American Youth Academy, New Horizons Schools, Islamic American University, DawaNet-to link • to serve: Home with sections entitled "How to Make America an Islamic Nation" and Da'wa in Public Schools, Excelsior Elementary School, Thomas Moore Law Center, Islamic Saudi Academy, "The Islam Project" by the Council on Islamic Education, the Arab World History Notebook, "Across the Centuries", California Academy of Sciences, "World Cultures : A Global Mosaic", American Textbook Council, "Islam and the Textbooks", Arab American Family Support Center (AAFSC), Mosque of Islamic Brotherhood's Boy Scout program (MIB), Americans Against Hate, CAIR Watch, the Young Muslims, Islamic Circle of North America (ICNA), Jamaat-e-Islami, Young Muslim Sisters (YMS), Middle East Media Research Institute, US Commission on International Religious Freedom (USCIRF), Freedom House, Institute for Gulf Affairs, Palestinian Media Watch, "Contemporary Problems", "History of the Arabs and the World in the 20th Century", Reading and Text Part II, Association of Independent Schools, ISA accreditation, Center for Religious Freedom, Hizb ut-Tahrir al-Islami, Islamic Party of Liberation, Al-Aksa TV of Hamas, Hudson institute, Popular Resistance Committee, "Schmoozing With Terrorists", US House of Representitives, Abu Dhabi Investment Authority, "Eurabia, the Euro-Arab Axis", European Union, the Arab League,"Foreign Affairs" - "Europe's Angry Muslims", Organization of the Islamic Conference (OIC), Sharee Council of Dewsbury, West Yorkshire, Immigration and National Security Program at the Nixon Center, Sukuk, Sharia compliant banks, Saxony-Anhalt, piggy banks in England, foot washing basins (Kansas City Airport & University of Michigan), "Britain's Daily Mail" - "Multiculturalsim Drives Young Muslims to Shun British Values", Nationa Intelligence Council, www.islamonline.net, "Valeurs Actuelles", the triple border region, UN Security Council, House Homeland Security Committee subcommittee on investigations report : "A Line In the Sand: Confronting the Threat At the Southwest Border", OTMs, Jamaat ul-Fuqra, Muslims of the Americas, the FBI, Canadian Security Intelligence Service, "TD Monthly", halal chicken, ACLU, the Date Frappuccino, Open Society Foundation, Whiting Foundation, hijab, Transportation & Safety Admin. (TSA), "New Media Journal" report - "In the Belly of the Beast: Jamaat ul-Fuqra, Jamaat ul-Fuqra mosque (Brooklyn, NY), Koran: 4:34, honor killings, the Alec file, Jamiyyat Ul-Islam, It's the Ideology Stupid,Tad-ru-bu-hu-nna, Human Rights Commission of Pakistan, UN Children's Fund, the Population Council - 2003 survey, m'uta, Haratines, Janjaweed, Dinka tribe, "Escape From Slavery", Toronto Sun online - "Slavery Lives in the Sudan", Middle East Forum - "The Problem with Slavery", Saudi Arabia Senior Council of Clerics, Human Rights Watch, Middle East Forum, Copts, Baha'i sect of Islam, "Islam : From Toleration to Terror", Hizb ut-Tahrir, Jyllands-Posten, "The Sum of All Fears", University of South Florida, Palistinian Islamic Jihad, "Future Jihad", Mosque Census Project, Eid al-Adha, Shahada, Mahram, FBI's Arab/Muslim Sikh American Advisory Committee, Higgins Center for Counterterrorism Research, Jamaat e-Islami, Samah, Tarbiya, Dar al-Arqam, SWICK, Policy-net PS - this is a very basic overview. I could give you a dozen quizzes more like this.
The only good al-Qaida is a dead al-Qaida... Chad's president: Al-Qaida chief killed in Mali Mar 1,`13 -- Chadian President Idriss Deby announced Friday that Chadian troops fighting to dislodge an al-Qaida affiliate in northern Mali killed one of the group's leading commanders, Abou Zeid.
I wish you would distinguish between the ME camps. You have the MB which is sympthetic to Shi'ite causes, such as Palistineans, Iranian, and Syrian interests. Then we have the Sunni side of the house which is the Qatari's, Saudi's, Turk's, UAE. Of these organizations you list here: CAIR, ISNA, MAS, MSA, ICNA, MPAC, IIIT, NAIF, NAIT, FCNA, MAYA, AEF, UASR, BMI, IMANA, AMSE, IFMI, GSISS, IIFTIKHAR, AMSS, IRO, ADAMS, IANA, MWL, WAMY, MYNA, AMT, IIFSO, AMCE, AMAFVAC, CISNA How many are Sunni, and how many Shi'ite operations? The fact is, to my knowledge atleast, that I haven't seen a Muslim attack on Western interests that wasn't based in Wahabbism, which is Sunni, which is the Saudi's, Qatari's, Turk's, UAE ect.
