Amos Yadlin + why bombing Damascus is important to Israel.

Show me the 'evidence'.

Then explain to me why it would be tactically logical for him to do the one thing he just knows would cause this reaction.

 

By your reasoning, can we take it that the people who care most about the Syrians are... AIPAC, lobbying for war Rabbi's and every single Jewish org in the US? They care sooooooooo much, that they want to help. And they want to help by way of persuading dumb America to bomb and kill yet more people, in Syria. To save lives. This will also explain why, out of step with any other group of people, Jews have been mostly in support of getting someone else to bomb Damascus - because it's an act of charity and liberation.

To think that all these years I considered Jews to be war mongers and agitators.

And here they are, trying to step up to the plate and press for a humanitarian effort. And all I do is accuse them of being warmongers and agitators.

Shame on me.

I never realised that they were only looking out for everyone's best interests.

 

Looks like you dont have a clue on either concept;

a) they met, twice, apparently
b) not even the UN is convinced that Assad was responsible for the chemical attacks


5 UN Powers End Syria Meeting With No Progress

UNITED NATIONS August 29, 2013 (AP)


A meeting of the U.N. Security Council's permanent members ended quickly Thursday with no sign of progress on an agreement over Syria's crisis.

The meeting Thursday afternoon started breaking up after less than an hour, with the ambassadors of China, France, Britain, Russia and the United States steadily walking out.

It was the second time in two days that the five Security Council powers came out of a meeting on Syria with no progress. On Wednesday, the five countries met to discuss a resolution proposed by Britain to authorize the use of military force against Syria in retaliation for an alleged chemical weapons attack that killed hundreds near Damascus.

Russia remains firmly opposed to such action, saying there is no evidence the Syrian regime was responsible for the attack, as the U.S. and its allies contend.

British Ambassador Mark Lyall Grant looked grim as he walk past reporters Thursday, saying "no comment." The other ambassadors also did not speak to reporters.

A Western diplomat, who spoke on condition of anonymity because the talks were private, said Russia called Thursday's meeting. Russia's U.N. mission refused to comment



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It never fails.

when a group whose very existence is to champion Israeli causes in the US actually attempts to fulfill its raison d'etre, the jew haters think that they are some how controlling the US government.

Its funny, if you ask a jew hater the USAG is controlled by AIPAC and the Jews.
If you ask a environmentalist the USAG is controlled by big oil.
If you ask a pacifist the USAG is controlled by the military industrial complex.
If you ask a die hard socialist the USAG is controlled by corporate interests.
If you ask a bankrupt ex homeowner the USAG is controlled by wall street.
If you ask a model plane club member the USAG is controlled by remote control.


And why would nation be concerned when chemical weapons are used within 150 miles of their capital during the chaos of a civil war in an enemy of that nation? Those jews sure do overreact.

 

Do you agree with points 1-3 in post #116 ?

 

AIPAC supported the attack (not war my dear drama queen) followed the request of the US President to Israel PM, ask Marlow about it if you dont trust me, did they do it for the Syrian ppl? not really, they did it for the US President request.

I do care about the Syrians that fight Assad pro Army and for all those ppl that died in the Chemical attack regradless of what you think of me being a Jew, attacking Assad wont topple him but it might buy the rebels time and perhaps a zone to defend themselves, other than that I dont think an attack would change anything, the Western alliance concept was broken the sec the Brits turned on their word.


As for "making others do our work", lol, didnt you accuse Israel of bombimg Syria what? 3 times already ? lol, keep track of your anti-semite propaganda will you ?

 

Calling me 'drama queen' is not only a personal attack, it is deeply ironic coming from the source it does.

Anyway, we'll let one pass so long as you don't do it again, okay Gilos.

Now let's deal with your other BS.


"AIPAC supported the attack ..."

Which is precisely what I said. And who do AIPAC consist of? Hindus and Catholics? Protestants? It's a Jewish lobby full of Jews, acting for and on behalf of Jewry.


"not war my dear drama queen..."

Ah, I see. So organised Jewry merely support getting non Jews to murder non Jews, for the benefit of Jews. Call it an attack if you wish, but attacking a nation leads to war, pal.

"followed the request of the US President to Israel PM, ask Marlow about it if you dont trust me..."

The request of what by the US President to the Israeli PM? And what does Marlowe have to do with this? Are you trying to build a case of him using chemical weapons now? Did he fart and this fart reminded Abe Foxman of woe to the Jews being gassed?


"I do care about the Syrians that fight Assad pro Army ..."

Sorry, come again. Are you saying that you care about the Syrians that are fighting for the Gov, and against the heart eating cannibals that Obama and organised Jewry support?

"attacking Assad wont topple him but it might buy the rebels time and perhaps a zone to defend themselves.."

Okay, so it seems that the real objective here then is that shift the balance back in favour of the imported heart eating cannibals, that are backed by Obama and organised Jewry.

"the Western alliance concept was broken the sec the Brits turned on their word.."

What Brits? What 'word'?

" lol, keep track of your anti-semite propaganda will you ? "

True to nature. You start with a personal attack and end with this tiresome BS. Know what buddy, if being an anti semite means hating conspiratorial, war mongering, agitating, organ stealing, expansionist, women trafficking, money laundering, lying, thieving thugs - then I am an 'anti semite'. And proud of it.

 

Its an Interst group, what diffrence does it make who consist it? Obama asked them to support his plans and they did

Stop talking like a Nazi officer please, there is no "organised Jewry", the "non-jews killing non-jews" is also BS, Israel attacked Syria several times already when it had to so obviously Israel acn and does take care of itself.

"followed the request of the US President to Israel PM, ask Marlow about it if you dont trust me..."

Obama to Bibi, it was in the Newspapers yesterday and your buddy Marlow just linked it in his post, thought you were updated.

I didnt see cannibals in those body bags, alot of kids thou.

You heard of the 2,000,000 refugees in Turkey and Jordan ? see the pictures? heard interviews ? they have families left behind as well, these are the Syrians I support and one day they will get their country back, I hope my country will assist them in that.

THE Brits, their word to join the coalition to attack Assad regime.

No, dont flatter yourself chum, you are NOT a freedom fighter or peaceloving person, you are just an anti-semite, and you an anti-semite because you truley belive in Nazi bed time story invented to justify genocide. your pride is your own affair.

 

Since your description can be applied to Russians, chinese, Americans, British and virtually every other ethnicity in general terms, it seems rather unfair to focus your hatreds on "world jewry".


How it infuriates a bigot, when he is forced to drag out his dark convictions!
- Logan Pearsall Smith

 

Oh my word.

My word.

Priceless.

Absolutely priceless.

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Except the Russians, Chinese, and British are not lobbying for the murder of non Jews in Syria, like drooling dogs.

Apart from that, well done.

 

except that your proud hatred appears to be pre-date the syrian civil war.

Course, the tibetans might argue with you about china murdering non-chinese, the chechyans would certainly argue with you about russia murdering non russians and the a considerable portion of the world would argue with you about britain murdering non white people.

So what's the real reason?

 

Well its your life Jack, we are just curious bystanders.

 

Well, it goes way beyond hatred.

You speak like all things should be loved.

Do you love and tolerate child molesters or do you hate them? Does it make a difference if you have met them in person or not? Does it make a difference what other works they may do? Can your hate of child molestation be rationally justified? Would it be irrational hate or rational post judgement not to leave your child in the care of one?

So you are spot on.

My hate for the warmongering scumbags does pre date Syria.

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Are Russians, Chinese, and British lobbying for bombs to be dropped on Syria so that people die?

Are Jewish groups? Are Rabbi's?

 

yes I am aware.

No, merely that the same standards used for hatred should be applied universally, not cherry picking a particular group.

As you are well aware I have a deep hatred of paedophiles. You are aware I make no secret of my bigotry, which is bigotry against various ideologies and dogma with the exception of kiddie diddlers.

occasionally I hit one.

do you hate hamas members? Or Islamists? Or imams that preach total destruction of infidels? Or christian crazies like Westboro Baptists?

Again, it seems you are very selective in applying the criteria of hatred. That suggests a deeper underlying rationale.

 

I think Obama ment a few deserted military buildings and he had the Arabs (several countires + the Arab league official rep of Syria), European (several states, all agreed with the US report thou), his own American ppl and one Israeli support + its American nation members if you want to single them from the rest of the Americans.

If you think a Rabbi tells Obama what and how much to bomb then you got some serious issues my friend.....

 

Good.

I am glad that you are finally aware that I HATE, no, beyond HATE bastards that conspire to lie so that people are murdered in their own lands.

And in the context of Syria, those lobbying for it most are Jewish.

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What about them?

 

Correct.

I do select.

When the WBC has the ear of Washington, and when all of Congress bow down at the feet of the WBC, I will be sure to merit it equal mention.

 

No, I have always been aware that you hate jews. We have both been banned for arguing about it.

and as I said before you reasons for beyond hatred do not seem to apply to bastards of other ethnicities despite the fact that they conspire to lie about people they murder in their own lands.

Are you even aware of the deeper reasons, because the superficial ones you are currently spouting are rather hypocritical.

Now that is nothing more than anecdotal nonsense.

 

there you go again with the spurious and salacious nonsense about Israel and AIPAC controlling the US government.
It appears as tho not only are you selective in applying your rationale for "beyond hatred", you are also appear to be applying erroneous criteria at the outset.

I am gratified that at least you admit to selective hatred.

 

No, once AGAIN, this is simply not true at all.

It is not MY fault if every single time there is agitation in the World, that Jews are the centre of it, is it?

Jews are lobbying for non Jews to be killed in Syria this time. And I hate them for it. So what?

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Tell me.
(This will be a laugh).

Who do you think 'controls' the US state?

Let me guess...the voters?

 

So how far does this theory about Jews go back? Were the Jews responsible for the 700 years or so of the Dark Ages in Europe? Were they responsible for the Inquisition? Enslavement of the Africans and/or American Indians?

I need to know how applicable this theory of "the Jews did it" goes back, because I am spending a hell of a lot of time in books on history, law, politics, war, economics, etc., in order to figure out patterns in the world's problems. It's pretty damn complicated! But in your infinite wisdom, every problem is quickly and accurately deduced to the Jews? Enlighten me.

 

Only a jew hater could make such a ludicrous easily disprove accusation.

Some Jews are lobbying to punish the user of chemical weapons 150 miles from their own capital in a raging civil war amongst one of its staunchest enemies. Naturally you would hate them for being rather concerned for their own security. - - -

Environmentalists think its big oil.
Vegans think its beef farmers.
Bankrupt ex home owners think its wall street.
Die hard socialists think its multination corporations.
Conspiracy nuts think its aliens.
Religious nuts think its God.
Pacifists think its the military industrial complex.
Obama haters think its muslims.

But the funniest are the jew haters that have no clue how the US government works nor the role of lobby groups who think that a jewish lobby group that is really good at its job actually controls the US government and dictates foreign policy.

Seems the jew haters also confuse being informed by the sensitive security requirements of a staunch ally is some how being controlled. I guess they don't quite grasp the concept of supporting allies in foreign policy initiatives. Might wanna talk to Putin and his staunch support of his biggest arms customer, I mean his staunch ally Assad.

 

Here's the thing. On another recent thread that has since been closed, the OP pointed to "right-wing Jews", overlooking the right-wing aspect. Similarly, that is your achilles heel. You blame Jews CULTURALLY when in reality it's the right-wing POLITICAL aspect that you prefer to overlook. It's not Jews per se that's the problem, rather the POLITICAL aspect that applies to both Jews and non-Jews alike. You seem to misguidedly believe that Jews are inherently pre-disposed to pathological behaviour. That is what your crude generalizations infer. The truth is, Jews, like everybody else, are people who DO NOT have common aims and share common attributes. The issue in other words, is not one of culture and religion but of class and power politics. Your hatred of Jews is distorting your judgement and in that regard you are no different from many contributors on here who bang on constantly about Muslims.

 

Well, you can SEE SURELY they are like rabid dogs, baying for it in Syria, surely?

Yes?

I mean, before we go on, at least let us know you can see that, else it's pointless.

 

You're wrong.

Since you seem to give special credence to Jewish intellectuals, I suggest you read what Israel Shahak writes in his book 'Jewish History, Jewish Religion, The Weight of 3000 yrs'.

In it he clearly states that it is not merely a political problem among Jewry but one that is cultural and comes right from Talmudic and Rabbinical influence and applies today. He considered it to be THE single most dangerous thing to the peace of mankind.