And how low will the Democrat go?

and before I forget... please give me an example that has stuck with you of Romney's WISDOM. YOu claim he has it in large amounts. Tell me one thing he has said or done that has indicated WISDOM.... or, as I suspect, is wisdom just one of those good political resume words you just tossed out there as a space killer so you could wipe the brown stuff off your nose? Are you angling for a low level position in a government office in a Romney administration, or what?

 

Your partisan hackism for your failed buffoon is disgusting. Research Romney's ACTUAL record of success after success. One doesn't accomplish that without wisdom. Just as dumb asses like b.o. will always fail, no number of excuses or blame gaming, changes that obama is a failure. And will always be a failure.

 

again.. I am no pom pom waving Obama cheerleader. He has disappointed me in much the same way that Dubya disappointed you. Despite your disappointment, you couldn't bring yourself to NOT vote for Dubya in 2004. Given my profound distrust of Romney, I cannot bring myself to vote for him in 2012. And somehow, you want to claim that your decision is based upon nan-partisan wisdom and mine is partisan hackery? GFY.

 

What factual, actual thing in Romney's record causes you to distrust him? His is a record of success. And you chastise me, yet YOU say b.o. has been a disappointment, YET YOU ABSOLUTELY WILL VOTE FOR HIM. Bush was bad, but a saint, a national hero, a shining star, compared to b.o.. Future dictionaries will have a picture of obama when people look up failure. Bush was bad, but b.o. is the WORST, and you will still vote for him. You have NO RIGHT to complain about any post of mine. Your credibility has now dropped almost down to the level of b.o.'s.

And I'd bet what you think you know about Romney comes from lying liberal propaganda.

I'm done with you.

 

our opinions of Bush differ greatly. ANd I look at the extraordinary number of contradictory positions Romney has taken on major issues, from abortion to gun control to health care to gay marriage and it is clear to me that he will tell whatever audience he hopes to impress whatever he thinks he needs to tell them in order to accomplish that. Here is a guy who was a moderate to liberal republican in the William Weld mold who got the people of the most liberal state in the union to elect him as their governor... they weren't quite fooled enough to make him their senator, but they DID elect him once as their governor... and here, this same man, wants to pass himself off as this gun loving, gay hating, abortion hating ********* and it makes me want to puke. But... you are pretty much on record as voting for him now, and then, regardless of what he does in his first term, voting for him again (we both know Bill Clinton is not allowed to run again, so your "I'd vote for Bill Clinton" line of crap is just that.0 You'll vote for the republican every time, regardless of how fu@ked up they are because they are not democrats.

I'm done with you too, and this silly conversation.

 

The Dems won't win 2012 by anything in the campaign.


It is not who vote for whom that counts,


It is who counts the vote that counts.


Why do you think the Liberals everywhere you meet them are so supremely confident about an Obama Win, when every past election indicator says otherwise?


The Fix is In, and anyone who thinks otherwise is a fool.


The only chance we have of prevent the theft of the 2012 election is the watchdog the hell out of the polls, and DEMAND Voter ID and more importantly, audit trails for the vote counters.

 

Yeah that is what it was, still dodging or going to address it?

 

Jimmy Carter, Pres. primary and general
Don Siegleman Gov. in the primary and general
Autur Davis Gov. in the primary
2000 Pres. Libertarian primary and general
2003 Pres. Libertarian primary and general
Justices, I have no idea what their names were now and not going to waste my time trying to look them up along with various other state Democrats for whom I have voted.

So are you over your NAH-NAH-NAH's

 

Yes state supreme court chief justice against Roy Moore the Republican.

 

so... you are saying that, back about 40 posts ago, you took a sentence out of the middle of a discussion I was having with dan40 and demanded that I take that detour in the conversation to answer YOUR question which clearly was one that needn't have been asked if you had been following the conversation in the first place...and now... you think I am dodging you by not answering it. have I got that right?

Pose it again and I'll consider whether I will answer it or send you back to the beginning of the thread to educate yourself.

 

Compuserve and American Online were online services before the internet was available to all and html came along and created user interfaces and websites. We couldn't cut and paste from online magainzes or newspaper back then, everything had to be typed in. Robert Novak hosted the AOL political debate and we have many conversations back then.

ROFL it was just proven again when you showed your ignorance of how far back online debating really goes.

 

Dodge noted again, you were asked twice I have no obligation to ask again. Move on.

 

be honest now... you forgot the question, didn't ya?

 

BE honest you are grasping at straws now, does "What will be Romney's fault" ring a bell.

Dodge noted again, hey move on I get the message, you refuse to answer.

 

your fellow rightie, dan40, had stated that, regardless of the obstructionist tactics of the republicans, the failure to move legislation was entirely Obama's fault. I asked him if he would feel the same way if, were Mitt to be elected and senate democrats decided to block every single initiative that he wanted and needed to get passed by congress in order to move the country in the direction that he wanted it to go, would dan consider that failure to be entirely Mitt's fault.

You would not have needed to ask that question if you had followed the thread instead of jumping in the middle and demanding an answer to a question the answer to which was inherent in the previous conversation.

 

No my question to you stood on it's own.

 

to bring this into perspective: I think the reason that most Obama supporters continue to support him has to do with their basic political philosophies. The democratic party and the republican party have vastly different views on a host of major issues: foreign affairs, women's rights, environmental protection, global warming, energy policy, family planning, gay rights, gun control, social justice, tax policy, and on and on. It is not necessarily that any of us are THRILLED with the performance of Obama in his first term, but that doesn't change the fact that we are vehemently opposed to most- if not all - of the GOP's positions on that long list of issues. Obama shares the political philosophy of democrats, and if we reelect him, he may not be successful in moving all or most or even hardly any of those issues down a path that democrats would approve, but electing Romney will CERTAINLY stop any movement on those issues in the direction that democrats want to see them advance, and, instead, move those issues down the path that the GOP wants them to advance.

It is nothing more or less than the standard clash of political philosophies that ought not to come as a surprise to anyone. If one has a vision for the future of our country, one will vote for the party that will attempt to move the country along a path that more closely resembles that vision.

 

consider it answered by #290.

 

any comment bluesboy?

 

Dodge noted.

 

To put this into real perspective while the hard core leftist care about the issues you list for the most part the vast majority don't give squat about anything by the economy and jobs and out of control government. And THAT is where Romney is the ONLY alternative to the failed policies of Obama. And I note the BIGGEST most IMPORTANT issues this country faces right now are not even on your list because the left has to do everything it can to avoid them and create issues like Romney's taxes and abortion.

What an understaement, what can you possibly be happy about?

Which will not matter when or economy already on the brink goes over the cliff and unemployment shoots back to double digits and we enter a depression.

Well if he is it will ruin this country.

So abortion, which no Republican is vowing any change to current law, is more important than our economic survival?

 

Obama could skip rope under a snake.

[video]http://www.youtube.com/embed/a4nvhAZ0vr0[/video]

 

I answered your question. If dan40's paradigm is to be honored, then EVERYTHING and ANYTHING bad that happens during a Romney administration will be Mitt's fault. It certainly seems as if you adhere to that paradigm... so why shouldn't democrats prepare to adhere to it as well, if Romney is elected? And why shouldn't democrats stand firmly in the path of anything and everything that Romney hopes to accomplish? Why shouldn't they filibuster everything, and pass nothing in the senate? I think that sounds like a great idea... and given the fact that republicans have done precisely that, all the while proclaiming themselves to be uber-patriots, I think that democrat's patriotism should not ever be questioned in the least if they do so.

 

Is that as deep as your political discourse can go? Obama was a full voting member of a Democrat controlled Congress for three years before moving to the White House and had a Democrat controlled House and Senate his first two years ans STILL has a Democrat controlled Senate. This excuse that he couldn't get what he wanted is fallcious but if we were to believe it then it shows he is not a capable President.

 

and again... to deny the very real significance of Nelson, Landrieux, Lieberman, Pryor, et. al., and the impact they had on Obama's legislative initiative is to show just how shallow your political knowledge really is. Did they teach you about DINOs in the GOP teen fun club?

And, like I said, the question you asked was... what will be Mitt's fault? And the answer remains: everything bad that happens during a Romney administration... everything thing that happens bad in America...everything that happens bad in the economy of Europe... everything that happens bad anywhere for any reason will be entirely MITT's fault and America should absolutely punish him by not reelecting him if he is unable to keep bad things from happening.

Dan40 taught me that.