And the fascist tentacles start to creep in

With Commissar Obama's new directive business will have to get approval from the government to cut back their workforce else be faced with substantially higher insurance cost as he dictates, with legal standing, another delay in his Obamacare plan.

From the new government directive

" (2) Maintenance of Workforce and Aggregate Hours of Service. During the
period beginning on February 9, 2014, and ending on December 31, 2014, the employer
does not reduce the size of its workforce or the overall hours of service of its employees
in order to satisfy the workforce size condition set forth in paragraph (1) of this section
XV.D.6. A reduction in workforce size or overall hours of service for bona fide business
reasons will not be considered to have been made in order to satisfy the workforce size
condition. For example, reductions of workforce size or overall hours of service
because of business activity such as the sale of a division, changes in the economic
marketplace in which the employer operates, terminations of employment for poor
performance, or other similar changes unrelated to eligibility for the transition relief
provided in this section XV.D.6 are for bona fide business reasons and will not affect
eligibility for that transition relief"

So if you have 101 employees and you see that you only need 99 you must apply for and get permission from the government to layoff the two employees and government will decide if you can and not face a heavy fine through the mandated cost you will incur under the law.

Yep that's how it starts.

For those unfamiliar with or with misconceptions of fascism

"As an economic system, fascism is socialism with a capitalist veneer. The word derives from fasces, the Roman symbol of collectivism and power: a tied bundle of rods with a protruding ax. In its day (the 1920s and 1930s), fascism was seen as the happy medium between boom-and-bust-prone liberal capitalism, with its alleged class conflict, wasteful competition, and profit-oriented egoism, and revolutionary Marxism, with its violent and socially divisive persecution of the bourgeoisie. Fascism substituted the particularity of nationalism and racialism—“blood and soil”—for the internationalism of both classical liberalism and Marxism.
Where socialism sought totalitarian control of a society’s economic processes through direct state operation of the means of production, fascism sought that control indirectly, through domination of nominally private owners. Where socialism nationalized property explicitly, fascism did so implicitly, by requiring owners to use their property in the “national interest”—that is, as the autocratic authority conceived it. (Nevertheless, a few industries were operated by the state.) Where socialism abolished all market relations outright, fascism left the appearance of market relations while planning all economic activities. Where socialism abolished money and prices, fascism controlled the monetary system and set all prices and wages politically. "
http://www.econlib.org/library/Enc/Fascism.html

 

Yes, this latest act of Obama's dream looks to be one of the most blatant dictatorship-oriented actions I've ever seen from him.

And the left thinks this is what they want! ha ha ha
Well, it should work out very well as long as the peons of the left are fabulously wealthy, but unfortunately only guys like Obama and Soros would get to be wealthy, and the peons will be in the same boats as the non-wealthy conservatives at that point.

Do aspiring socialists not realize that when the rich are taken down, then only the leaders in govt. will be rich?

Speaking of 'rich', the fact that liberals don't know this is VERY 'rich'.

 

Businesses have to ask the Government if they can lay off people? They have to justify it to the U.S. Government?

This is Authoritarian Statism... Stalin would be so very proud of you Democrats and Barack Obama.

 

government control over the means of production.... I think thats part of the communist manifesto....

 

This is a jaw dropping authoritarian move by the administration and will likely be challenged in court. The instability this new "liberating" law is introducing into our country is incredibly obvious and how anyone can justify it at this point is certifiably nuts! And hell, the damn thing isn't even fully implemented yet! If this is the best DC could legislate as a "fix" for a what they claimed was a broken system, we're in deep sh*t.

 

Crickets from the Democratic apologists over this egregious overstep of government authority.

 

That deep sh*t started back in 2008.

The left doesn't realize its going to run out of toilet paper.

 

Nah, they are just waiting for the defensive talking points to come out, then they'll bum rush the thread calling everyone nazis and racists and figure they won, all without once addressing the issue at hand...

 

Problem is we're all going to run out! I could care less if the progressive fruits who support the regime swim in crap all day long, I just don't want to be forced into pool with them by the ass clown and chief and his band of spineless henchmen.

 

What Obama is doing here is silencing businesses that lay-off people on account of the additional costs that ObamaCare and ObamaCare alone are imposing on businesses. This is yet another naked attempt on Obama's part to avoid taking responsibility for the harmful consequences of FullRetardCare.

Welcome to the Orwellian nature of Obama's Fundamentally Transformed America. He'll still be responsible for killing jobs and economic growth but he'll escape being held responsible for it. The dishonesty of this man and his administration makes Richard Nixon and his administration look like a bunch of amateurs, and you can rest assured that Obama's "progressive" running dogs in the MSM won't say a thing about it.

Newsflash: Laying off people on account of the extra financial burdens that FullRetardCare places on businesses IS a bona fide business reason for taking that action. Now, Big Brother Barry and his comrades want people to think otherwise.

Orwellian, indeed...

 

It's damn sad. Hopefully the Supreme Court will get around to ramming it back inside the behind of the Dem leadership where such a fetid clause should naturally reside.

 

You would like to know how I would equate fascism to the President. Yes, I understand your question.

 

I'd like to try and refute what I posted that Obama's Obamacare is sinking us into economic fascism.

Further

THOUGHT POLICE: FIRMS MUST SWEAR OBAMACARE NOT A FACTOR IN FIRINGS
Is the latest delay of ObamaCare regulations politically motivated? Consider what administration officials announcing the new exemption for medium-sized employers had to say about firms that might fire workers to get under the threshold and avoid hugely expensive new requirements of the law. Obama officials made clear in a press briefing that firms would not be allowed to lay off workers to get into the preferred class of those businesses with 50 to 99 employees. How will the feds know what employers were thinking when hiring and firing? Simple. Firms will be required to certify to the IRS – under penalty of perjury – that ObamaCare was not a motivating factor in their staffing decisions. To avoid ObamaCare costs you must swear that you are not trying to avoid ObamaCare costs. You can duck the law, but only if you promise not to say so.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...s-must-swear-obamacare-not-factor-in-firings/

 

How can I make this more explicit for you? I'm not going to lower myself to engage people as though they actually had an argument when they don't.....I'm not going to pretend as though they were my equal when all they have to work with is the most imbecilic of shallow rhetoric, superficial ideology, and pop culture revisionist history. When you make the comparisons to fascism you loose any credibility you might otherwise have had. When I post comparisons to fascism it's always in parody of Tea Party types.

 

I know you can't utter a negative peep about the first black president, let alone impeach this idiot, but is ANYONE in the media ever going to call this guy out?

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How come you didn't offer a counter argument to the OP?

 

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Im guessing because they care about their country being turned into a sewer by the worst President our nation has ever seen. This guy makes Carter look like Rush Limbaugh. Those who voted for this guy ought to ashamed of themselves for being unable to comprehend even simple concepts like addition and subtraction. I mean aside from the fact they knew he was friends with an actual nail bombing terrorist and had no executive experience AT ALL but still thought it was a good idea this POS runs the nation.

 

You are aware that Fascism is a right wing ideology correct?

 

Dude, he's friends with Jay Z! You mean there's more to being president than that?

 

Depends on who you ask. If youre asking me Yes, the people who voted for him. Absolutely and I mean absolutely not.

 

Rubbish, its socialist its leftist. But leftists want to muddy the waters that theres socialism on the far left, socialism on the far right and everything in between. The right is for more liberty and less govt! Fascist and commi states rely on big over bearing police and spy states to control the people, that cant happen under limited govt with max liberty.

 

You petty hyberbole aside I await your reasoned civil rebuttal to what has been presented to you.

 

See above, political Fascism embodied principles from both ends but clearly economic Fascism was NOT modern"right wing" any more than modern "left wing" is Communism.

But do give your comments as to Obamacare and this next move he has made with it vis-a-vis the definition to economic Fascism.

 

You seem confused. You lead off with "Commissar Obama"......blah, blah, blah. Didn't you really mean "Mein Fuhrer Obama"?