Another study showing the seriousness of Covid-19: brain fog

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  1. Bowerbird

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    Okay

    Going to see if I can find some visuals to back what Centrefield is saying

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    https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/resp.14091

    If you get nothing else from this it does show how the virus spreads and triggers damage in multiple organs
    I will come back to this and see what I can dig up
     
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    The legal framework around lawsuits are different in Australia and the UK etc
     
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    As you were listing things that described Democrats-- the final example, I left off, was about believing the mainstream media, like CNN, etc.-- and your reference to a male, "first lady," seems an intended swipe at Obama, it appears that you already have the Brain Fog; so (if this is not the result of your having previously caught Covid-19) then, to prevent its worsening, you had better get immunized.
     
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    If this thread was able to weather a Tucker-tangent, a few posts about nitric oxide, shouldn't hurt. First off, just to be clear, the supplements don't supply nitric oxide directly, but nitrogen, as a source for the body's endothelium to convert. A common supplement for this purpose is beet powder. Some supplements may include additional ingredients, meant to promote or stimulate this production (like the amino acid L-citrulline; some use L-arginine). Nitric oxide's effect, which these supplements tout, is its relaxing of blood vessels, allowing their greater dilation and so increasing their potential to deliver more blood, to some part of the body where it is desired. While its action makes it anti-hypertensive (blood-pressure lowering), the activity with which this supplement is usually associated, is weightlifting/body building. I think most who use it, however, do so in the hopes that its vasodilation will provide a Viagra-like benefit.
     
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    Brain damage! Well it explains why people voted for Biden.
     
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    Nobody can do anything about covid. Everybody in this thread is going to get it at some point or another be it today tomorrow two weeks from now 2 years from now 10 years from now the Delta is not going anywhere and we're all going to have to face up to it and we're all going to get it no matter how many precautions we take.

    So you can either face that reality under the fear of what if you get it how sick are you going to be what kind of reaction are you going to have from it blah blah blah blah blah.

    All you can decide is how you want to face it do you want to face it with a vaccine in your system or do you want to face it through natural immunity it's your call and I don't judge you one whichever way you decide you want to take this thing.

    But it's getting kind of tiring reading all these fear-mongering threads about how severe these side symptoms are like I'm supposed to really give a damn because I and everyone else has no control over getting covid
     
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    You DO “have control” - get vaccinated, keep wearing masks social distance, wash your hands etc etc etc

    you might still get the virus but odds are it will be much less of an issue

    I mean -you can try NOT to do all those things but why play Russian Roulette with six chambers loaded?
     
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    Thanks. All I really I know is I’ve seen it advertised. I don’t usually pay much attention to supplements as they are pretty much all hype. If every supplement like that was as effective as claimed we’d all live to be 500 years old and bench press 500 pounds. LOL

    It is interesting what roles it plays in the body so I appreciate the information.
     
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    Air should be taken off him.
     
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    Someone had to add a stupid post to this thread. So, it's done. ^
     
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    I find it intriguing the people who wish to censor some media fully support misinformation and disinformation from public health officials. It tells me public health is not the top priority. Sobering.
     
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    Yeah but none of this is new. We know the spike protein damages cardiovascular tissue which is important for every major organ.
     
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    He is definitely a case of Mononeuronis asynapsis :p
     
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    Question for @CenterField - is there any evidence of the brain fog or other long haul symptoms with those who contracted covid but were not seriously ill? Has it shown up in those vaccinated who got covid?
     
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    Sounds to me that it’s mostly hospitalized COVID patients. So it must be a condition of the more severe cases. So mostly older people I’m sure although they conveniently left those stats out. Interesting reads none the less
     
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    I know two people who were not hospitalized, one was vaccinated and still got it, who are dealing with brain fog. It doesn't seem to be common based on the people I know who got it. But it is a quality of life issue.
     
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    I know more than a few people that got it recently. 3 within the last two months and 2 others within the last three months. None showing signed yet but we will see.
     
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    From the article:

    "We investigated rates of cognitive impairment in survivors of COVID-19 who were treated in outpatient, emergency department (ED), or inpatient hospital settings."

    "The mean (IQR) age of 740 participants was 49 (38-59) years, 63% (n = 464) were women, and the mean (SD) time from COVID-19 diagnosis was 7.6 (2.7) months (Table 1). Participants self-identified as Black (15%), Hispanic (20%), or White (54%) or selected multiracial or other race and ethnicity (11%; other race included Asian [4.5%, n = 33)] and those who selected “other” as race)."
     
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    From the article:
    "mean (SD) time from COVID-19 diagnosis was 7.6 (2.7) months"
     
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    LOL
     
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    That just says the mean age and age range of the study, that does not point out ages effected at higher rates.
     
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    Which is why I said they haven’t got it yet.
     
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    Yes, this very study I quoted, has the evidence you're looking for, if you download the PDF from the link and look at table 2. You'll see that outpatients (the mild cases) had cognitive impairment / brain fog in smaller percentage than the more severe cases, but stil, various cognitive domain impairments were seen and varied from 5% of patients to 16%.

    Regarding long covid in vaccinated patients, yes, but rare. A small Israeli study recently provided the first evidence that breakthrough infections could lead to long COVID symptoms, although the numbers are small. Out of about 1,500 vaccinated health care workers, 39 got infected, and seven reported symptoms that lasted more than six weeks.

    And a large British study subsequently found about 5% of people who got infected — even though they were fully vaccinated — experienced persistent symptoms, although the study also found that the odds of having symptoms for 28 days or more were halved by having two vaccine doses.

    https://www.npr.org/transcripts/1021888033

    http://www.thelancet-press.com/embargo/vaxeffectiveness.pdf
     
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    Thanks for taking the time to respond!! Your knowledge and sources have been very helpful to many of us and we really appreciate it!
     
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    No, they did not leave any of these stats out. You just didn't know how/where to look. There is a link to download the full PDF of the study, and over there you find everything about percentages of these cases according to severity of illness, mean ages and age ranges, etc. The mean age was 49. Go to the PDF and consult tables 1 and 2, and the text of the study which describes everything.

    Because you don't know how to look for something, it doesn't mean that they "conveniently" left those stats out.
     
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