Another win for freedom Judge blocks AZ anti PP law

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  1. Makedde

    Makedde New Member Past Donor

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    Most of those Republicans are opposed to.
     
  2. The Wyrd of Gawd

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    Why would black people want to have kids when they are treated like dirt? They have lousy educational, employment, and political prospects.
     
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    No, in real words I do know but I also know it's a waste of time trying to explain to right wing extremists and *********s.
     
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    All of them. You willing to give up some? Not me.
    Which isn't happening in any way shape or form, but hey thinks for the hyperbole!
     
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    MOre stomping on the Constitutional rights of Americans by FORCING them to PAY FOR ABORTIONS.

    Your concept of "Freedom" is a lot like Stalin's....
     
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    You mean we get to pick what we pay for with our tax dollars? Well in that case I want every dime they ever got from me for the defense budget back and take me off the list to pay that in the future.
     
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    Sounds like something a KKK member would say.

    I'm gonna play the liberal for a change and call you out as a racist.

    EDIT: Sad thing is, most blacks don't realize that voting Democrat is more harmful to them than voting Republican could ever be. They also don't realize they have more in common with Republicans than they do Democrats. Sad reality. Maybe one day they'll wake up, but after seeing how blacks voted in 2008, I doubt it's likely to happen in my life time.

    Oh well. Such is life.
     
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    I shouldnt have to fund Israel either. If folks want to protect them for their religious beliefs they should grab thier kids and money and head over there.

    Plenty of room to cut spending outside of our country before we go after our own people.
     
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    Grokmaster Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It is ILLEGAL under current US law for the government to pay for abortions, ( HYDE AMENDMENT), in addition to the fact that it is a glaring 1st Amendment violation of the right to freely practice religion.
     
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    and they do not except in the case of rape and risk of harm to the mother

    just like gov insurance doesn't cover plastic surgery, they will cover reconstructive surgery
     
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    Yeah, take MY tax money off the Farm subsidy bill that gives BILLIONS to millionaire farm corporations, multinational sugar corporations, and ethanol farmers.

    Oh yeah, and Defense budget too, except for solider pay, healthcare, and pensions.
     
  12. Yosh Shmenge

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    You've been challenged before to specify which particular freedoms are being lost here in this issue? I guess you just really don't know. Perhaps you shouldn't be so quick to spout off nonsense you can't justify.


    As long as public funds are going to support PP, then government is making people finance abortion counter to their beliefs and wishes. I wish all arguments were this easy and I didn't realize Planned Parenthood had a constitutional RIGHT to receive funds from the government.
     
  13. Yosh Shmenge

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    "In the past two years, conservative Republicans in more than a dozen states have taken steps to eliminate funding for Planned Parenthood, and the organization has filed lawsuits in at least six of them, including Arizona."
    By what right does Planned Parenthood demand that states pay for it's services?


    I would like some leftist to fill me in here: In what sense does any state have a responsibility, or legally compelled duty, to fund Planned Parenthood? Is it constitutional? I must have missed that part of the document.
     
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    Which isn't happening, at all.

    Not even close, but it is fair to say based on your other posts that your concept of freedom is a lot like Mussolini's.
     
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    And there is no evidence that the Hyde amendment has ever been broken, ever.
     
  16. Dispondent

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    The OP brings some interesting insight to the liberal mindset, where else can one find judges actions and freedom in the same sentence and think that is somehow good for the American people...
     
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    The first and only American law with total compliance? I guess we need a Hyde-like amendment in every bill...
     
  18. Craftsman

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    And I stated I do know but it's a waste of time explaining it to nutters on the right, they simply do not under stand 'freedom' in fact I think they fear it.
    ALL freedoms are worth protecting, and thanks to the evil liberals in this country we protect the freedoms of even you conservatives.


    You have no evidence to support that claim and you will never find any since it simply is not happening.
    In fact if you check, PP has been audited till the cows come home and no one has ever found so much as a nickel of your big govt. money going to pay for an abortion. As has been pointed out, it's against the law.

    Now, lets look for that 4 billion in cash that went missing in Iraq under bush the failure....shall we?
     
  19. Craftsman

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    As far as the evidence shows, it may be.
    Do you have any evidence?
     
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    Every time a judge blocks the anti-American voter suppression efforts of the republicans.
    You want more examples?
     
  21. Dispondent

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    No, I have no evidence, I'm simply in awe, that a mere amendment like Hyde can bring total compliance to a law, I'm just wondering how we put that effect into all our laws... Imagine a crime free America...
     
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    Dispondent Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So its cool if only Republicans are suppressed? Wow... That pendulum swings both ways, I'll remember your words...
     
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    :popcorn:Well open your eyes. The blacks like it that way.
     
  24. Yosh Shmenge

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    Right...:roll:. You know what you mean...but you just won't say.
    Very "credible".
    Is the freedom to have an abortion, which is not in jeopardy, by any chance be what you are referring to?
    I think the answer is obviously yes. How does the method of funding for Planned Parenthood (a wealthy organization perfectly capable of funding itself) threaten abortions?

    Your hyperbole is absurd.

    Yes. If not for liberals our freedoms would all collapse like a house of cards. Also very "credible".



    Very simply, because I know how difficult it is for you guys to keep up, ANY public money that is given to Planed Parenthood necessarily HAS to go towards implementing abortions, in part, because ANY money used to operate PP non abortion related services, ALSO go towards doing the dirty business of abortions (i.e. paying for office space, turning on the lights, employing office personnel, etc.).


    Money is fungible and insisting you can take a dollar and use it here but not there is ridiculous. But that's the game that the liars at Planned Parenthood are always playing (when they aren't suing states to force them to give them money...which is known as extortion in any other context).

    ex·tor·tion (k-stôrshn)
    n.
    1. The act or an instance of extorting.
    2. Illegal use of one's official position or powers to obtain property, funds, or patronage.
    3. An excessive or exorbitant charge.

    Put your deflector shields down, Captain Kirk!
     
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    So no evidence at all, just like no evidence of voter fraud and yet you cons need to bring in the big Govt to solve a problem that isn't even a problem.
    Ever notice how often conservatives do this?
     

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