Anti-abortion is a hypocrisy

Discussion in 'Abortion' started by DeathStar, Feb 9, 2012.

  1. DeathStar

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    First off, obviously, "liberty" is about allowing decisions to be made by a decider, simply. The precise consequential interpretations of that are more fuzzy and subjective, but that can't be denied.

    Saying that, I don't understand people that think that "liberty" rightly applies to fetuses that can't make decisions. And no, they CANNOT make decisions, because they haven't even developed the neurological ability to have a "sense of self", let alone make a personal decision about anything.

    It's really all a big hypocrisy; the people who are against abortion are the same ones that do not believe in animal rights of any kind, despite the reality that some species are quite capable of making conscious, individual, personal decisions (of course there will be people absurdly saying that a 6 month old fetus in the womb has more cognitive/social/emotional awareness than an adult chimp or dolphin, but oh well).
     
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    BS, who in their right mind want to have decisions made for them by GW? That is the problem, self righteous zealots believe that such decisions should be made for other people like themselves.
     
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    uh, what are you talking about and why does that have anything to do with my OP?
     
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    It was a joke. GW called himself the decider, but now that it had to be explained it no longer is.
     
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    aha.

    Well I do not tend to agree with GWB's decisions, but I found him to be sorta a likeable guy.
     
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    For me it is about a hell of a lot more than that

    It is about people trying to oversimplify a highly complex issue

    1. legal ramifications - I live in a state where abortion is illegal - our abortion rate is the same as yours. Laws will not stop abortion

    2. We have to make some consideration for those conditions where abortion is necessary to save the life of the woman - but who gets to decide when the danger is high enough?

    3. Can we in all honesty even make the decision for another person as to what level of health impact they want to accept on their life?

    4. How do you tell if someone is having or has had an abortion? Especially with todays "medical" abortions where a pill can effect the abortion?

    5. If we decide that we want to prevent all abortions then should we also ban all women of child bearing age from drinking alcohol, eating Pawpaw or indulging with other possible abortifacients such as coffee?

    6. How are you going to distinguish the doctor performing an abortion to save a life from one doing an abortion to save a reputation? Especially if you cannot access the medical records of the women involved?

    7. Even if this were made illegal - what punishment would you mete out? Would you still mete the same to a woman who is dying from sepsis because circumstances forced her to a backyard butcher?
     
  7. Not Amused

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    The way to avoid abortion is to avoid pregnancy, and there are a lot of ways to do that.
     

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