Anti-vaxxers crumble as every prediction fails to come true

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    If your Lord and Savior Anthony Fauci was a Trump supporter, he’d be in prison where he belongs.
     
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    Is this misinformation and should it be censored?


    New Evidence Strongly Indicates SARS-CoV-2 Was Created

    In a January 25, 2024, article1 in the City Journal, science writer, editor and author Nicholas Wade details new evidence2 obtained by U.S. Right to Know (USRTK) that further strengthens the theory that SARS-CoV-2 was indeed made in a lab.3

    As noted by Wade, that’s the key reason why no one, despite massive testing efforts, has been able to find SARS-CoV-2 in any wild animal, bats or otherwise. It never existed in the natural world, only in the lab.

    The newly-obtained documents include what amounts to a recipe for “assembling SARS-type viruses from six synthetic pieces of DNA designed to be a consensus sequence — the genetically most infectious form — of viruses related to SARS1, the bat virus that caused the minor epidemic of 2002,” Wade writes. As it turns out, SARS-CoV-2 has this exact six-section structure.

    The documents also show that “American scientists planned to work with the Wuhan Institute of Virology to engineer novel coronaviruses with the features of SARS-CoV-2 the year before the virus emerged from that city,” USRTK reporter Emily Kopp writes.
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    https://www.lewrockwell.com/2024/02/joseph-mercola/the-story-of-the-decade/
     
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    It's conjecture from a source that is known to spew out endless misinformation.

    So the "theory" has been "strengthened" by documents freely released, when to cover them up would have been child's-play!? Yeah right.

    Wade is an unqualified journalist who worked for the "evil" mainstream!
    Origins of SARS-CoV-2 | Johns Hopkins | Bloomberg School of Public Health (jhu.edu)
    "Three-quarters of the early cases had some association with the market and none had an association with the laboratory. Even though the market and the laboratory are both in Wuhan, they are in different parts of the city separated by a river. There were also other indicators: There were two lineages—or two separate variants—of SARS-CoV-2 that were circulating in the early days of the pandemic. One of those became the pandemic [as we know it] and the other one died out.

    But [the existence of two lineages] would mean that there would have to have been two introductions from a laboratory, versus an outbreak going on among animals and then spilling over multiple times to people. The scientists looked for two things: tracking the early cases and evolution of the two lineages. They did a geospatial analysis which tracked cases that we knew about and pinpointed exactly where in Wuhan those cases were. They were even more tied to the market than previous indicators had suggested. The scientists looked at those two strains and [their] lineages to see how they evolved, which also tied it to an animal spill-over.

    They got down to the exact stall of where one of the positive environmental samples had come from. There had been a picture taken a couple of months prior where a raccoon dog had been sitting in said stall. Raccoon dogs are one of the prime suspects for where the virus came from.

    WE KNOW THAT THE CORONAVIRUS ORIGINATED IN BATS. COULD THE RACCOON DOG HAVE BEEN THE INTERMEDIARY ANIMAL?

    Correct. We think it’s a bat virus that spilled over into an animal population. This is a very permissive virus, what they call a “generalist virus,” that’s able to infect lots of different animals. Raccoon dogs are one of the animals it’s known to infect. "


    There's absolutely nothing to be gained by defending China if it actually DID do this. It literally makes no sense at all. This guff about "leaked documents" makes the duplicate claims made in the very early days of the virus about synthetic associations! There is nothing held back from virologists studying the actual virus, that suddenly gets released because some random member of the public asked for it!

    No, the coronavirus wasn't made in a lab, a genetic analysis shows | Science News
    "It was clear “almost overnight” that the virus wasn’t human-made, Andersen says. Anyone hoping to create a virus would need to work with already known viruses and engineer them to have desired properties.

    But the SARS-CoV-2 virus has components that differ from those of previously known viruses, so they had to come from an unknown virus or viruses in nature. “Genetic data irrefutably show that SARS-CoV-2 is not derived from any previously used virus backbone,” Andersen and colleagues write in the study."


    Really? The "newly leaked documents" showed that? From 2021:
    Leaked Grant Proposal Details High-Risk Coronavirus Research (theintercept.com)
    Just read it, all the same stuff, but also some insight into how implausible the engineered-virus claim is.

    Virologists advising Obama many years back identified the potential for a pandemic from this very line of infection. Stands to reason that a potential line of study would be an option, even though it was rejected.
    Obama's science advisors outline plan for faster pandemic vaccine | CIDRAP (umn.edu)
    Evidence Shows Obama Team Left A Pandemic ‘Game Plan’ For Trump Administration - KFF Health News
    I'm not going to quote any of it. Read it, don't read it, it supports what I just said.
     
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    Ideological dogma has proven to be a poor substitute for scientific knowledge, whether in immunology, climatology, embryology, gender identity, or lepidopterology.

    Reportedly, the goober controlling the fate of nations in the U.S. Congress actually thinks Noah hosted dinosaurs on the Ark, sometime after October 23, 4004 B.C.
     
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    Why do you love Bill Gates?


    Bill Gates wants to jab your arm.
    Bill Gates pushes deadly vaccines.
    Bill Gates is a serial killer,
    an ignoramus doing much harm.
    Bill Gates is morally obscene.

    Bill Gates is the Global Health Czar.
    He appointed himself to the task.
    He more or less owns the W.H.O.
    Every nation does what he asks.

    Bill Gates is a sociopath.
    He knows the vaccines kill and maim.
    Mountains of evidence prove it
    but he loves the jabs all the same.
    He’s paralyzed thousands in India.
    In Africa he’s killed millions.
    In the USA where Lies hold sway
    the sheeple lined up for their jabs right away.
    Now he’s working on “vaccine patches”
    to eliminate the dreaded needle
    but the people are leery of getting his poisons
    though his media whores cajole and wheedle.

    Bill Gates wants to block out the sun
    with tons of toxic dust
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    https://www.lewrockwell.com/2024/02/walter-gelles/bill-gates-cease-and-desist/
     
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    Is this misinformation?


    Reiner Fuellmich: “New Findings… Enough to Dismantle the Entire (VAX COVID) Industry!” https://www.lewrockwell.com/2022/01...gh-to-dismantle-the-entire-vax-covid-industry

    Dr. Reiner Fuellmich led an international team of lawyers and physicians compiling what they said was irrefutable proof that the Covid global vaccination program was a coordinated effort to intentionally murder or maim millions of people. The planned “Nuremberg 2.0” trial exposing vaccine manufacturers, governments, and politicians who forced these bioweapons/killshots on their populations was derailed. In October 2023 Fuellmich was seized at the German Embassy in Mexico while on a passport errand, abducted to Frankfurt and arrested. Imprisoned for weeks without due process, he is currently on trial in Germany for what is widely viewed as fake charges of embezzlement, a “lawfare” attack designed to silence him.
     
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    Still waiting for your answer on this:

    Explain the total of 400,732 excess deaths occurring in the United States in 2017 prior to Covid vaccines.
     
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    Meaningless.
     
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    Why are you avoiding answering my question? You linked to an article that stated 158,000 excess deaths were clearly related to the Covid vaccine. So please explain the total of 400,732 excess deaths in the USA in 2017 when the vaccine did not exist. I don’t think you or the author of the article you linked to are aware that the number of excess has been steadily increasing since 2000 in the US. The number of excess deaths seems to have actually decreased in 2023. You might want to explain why most of the countries who had a very high vaccine uptake did not experince any excess deaths. Perhaps the information you are posting is wrong. Seems so, since you refuse to address the information I provided.
     
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    Claiming something is a lie is a positive claim. Prove the last 5,000 deaths were unrelated to the covid vaccine.
     
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    It's strange how I liberal the left has become how corporation worshiping they are.

    Just 10 years ago they were rebels doing the occupy Wall Street thing now they are Wall Street trying to occupy you.
     
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    Well nothing is 100% effective but I vermectin has been proven effective for reducing viral load since the 1980s.

    Some braindead journalist who was owned by the fraudulent corporation that made the fake vaccine called ivermectin horse-paste because they didn't know what they were talking about, and you follow them out of partisanship, nothing else.

    This isn't misinformation it's propaganda and you fell for it. To the point where it's religion for you now.
     
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    That is irrelevant to the question I asked and has nothing to do with Fauci. The gambit of demonizing Fauci doesn’t support the information you are providing. The pandemic was worldwide and many experts were addressing the virus issue, so many more sources than just Fauci.
     
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    To say something like that is a lie in itself.

    I was actually not following anything Fauci said during the Pandemic as I am not in the US.

    When scientists try to figure something out, it’s called research. At the beginning of the Pandemic, the world was dealing with a ‘novel’ coronavirus. Nobody had immunity. They didn’t know how it caused infection — respiratory, or through touch. They didn’t know how it would mutate. They didn’t know how infectious it was. A lot of the information at the beginning came from what they already knew about coronaviruses especially SARS. Learning something new and then correcting previous knowledge is not lying. Fauci is a scientist and during the Pandemic if you didn’t hold some perverse hatred for the man, you could see he was correcting information that was constantly emerging about the virus. Good scientists are wrong all the time. Fauci is one expert out of many.

    If you want to have a discussion about lying. Trump lied about the virus going away in hot weather. He lied when he said they had it under control. He waited too long to shut down entry points into the USA which resulted in over a million deaths. Why don’t you LOL that?

    Looking at the expertise of Fauci versus Trump, I would believe someone who’s spent his life studying infectious disease, and who changes his mind as new data comes in, over someone who doesn’t seem able to change his mind in response to anything at all.
     
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    There’s no question that repeatedly Fauci lied. How do you know he didn’t when when you acknowledged that you didn’t follow anything he said?
     
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    I didn’t follow it at the time. I have now looked at the supposed “lies” and most of it looks like changing his opinion as the facts about the virus emerged. Vilifying a scientist serves no purpose.
     
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    That’s always the excuse liars use. Fauci got caught lying several times while under oath.

    Fauci basically become intoxicated with his second 15 minutes of fame and said things to perpetuate it. He became power mad.
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    What an absurd generalisation.
    Ok then. Date of statement please and what was the lie. Give everyone your worst 3?
     
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    He lied about supporting gain of function testing, he lied about funding gain of function testing at the Wuhan biolab 2, the lied about royalties received from the vaccine companies, he lied about natural immunity, he lied about masks.

    Paul, Rand. Deception: The Great Covid Cover-Up (p. 234). Regnery Publishing. Kindle Edition.

    Paul, Rand. Deception: The Great Covid Cover-Up (p. 230). Regnery Publishing. Kindle Edition.

    Paul, Rand. Deception: The Great Covid Cover-Up (p. 233). Regnery Publishing. Kindle Edition.

    Paul, Rand. Deception: The Great Covid Cover-Up (p. 421). Regnery Publishing. Kindle Edition.
     
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    The truth is Rand Paul is a liar. The above book is a work of fiction.

    Fact checks related to misinformation about Fauci. https://www.factcheck.org/2022/08/correcting-misinformation-about-dr-fauci/

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    tatement regarding the government funding of the Wuhan lab.

    Why scapegoat and promote false stories about Fauci? To get the focus off Trump’s poor handling of the pandemic. All the crap about Fauci lying has been produced by right-wing trolls who use illogical thinking and believe themselves to be experts with more knowledge than Fauci. Funding a lab for coronavirus research does not mean the funding is for Gain Of Function research.
     
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    Why would Fauci fund coronavirus research at the Wuhan Lab??

    How was Trump’s handling of the pandemic poor?
     

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