Any non-religious arguments against gay marriage?

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  1. yardmeat

    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    You need some pretty hefty brain damage to "understand" that.

    Only a tyrant would find the fact that no one is harmed to be beside the point.
     
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    Give me a break. Please present a single credible scientific source which supports this.

    Because part of law enforcement is trying to prevent crime and harm to others before it occurs. Not that it matters anyway, cause this is still a red herring and a horrible analogy. An openly gay man would hurt no one by being married to another man, and therefore, there is no reason why it should be denied.

    Are you insane? Now you're just flat out lying. This is exactly the point. You have presented many analogies and arguments related to and revolving around harm to others in an attempt to support your bigoted position against gay-marriage. Some in this same post. We just keep showing how they are all illogical nonsense.

    Nope, I'll give you a hint... it has to do with another large battle for equality that took place in the US.

    Though I'm sure you already know this. You're just resorting to your usual trollish dishonesty.
     
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    tomteapack New Member Past Donor

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    Marriage in America is totally under control of the Government, NOT religion. No Priest, minister, preacher or other religious person can marry anyone, without first getting authorized to do so by the Government of their state. Religious ceremonies are second to civil ones and all are civil in nature. Even if married by a priest, the authorization of that marriage is of a civil nature.
    In America, marriages give the couple certain LEGAL rights, to which any two people should be allowed to have. Inheritance, and ability to visit a sick spouse in the hospital are just two of them.

    Your opinion on what sex is best for parents is just that YOUR OPINION. If you do not wish to have children with someone of your sex, then don't. But, if others do, if male/male or female/female then they should have that right. Parents that were two dogs would be better than most of the places orphans are brought up today. America was a far better place with state supervised orphanages than they are today by paying people to watch out for orphans in their homes.
     
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    Osiris Faction Well-Known Member

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    And absolutely no respect for human life.

    I expect you would fit in nicely with the KKK or as a neo-nazi.
     
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    tomteapack New Member Past Donor

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    I personally have no problem treading on the beliefs of ignorance, bigotry, prejudice or religious nonsense.
     
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    I don't know of any credible sources in the field of human psychology, but anyone with a lick of common sense knows I'm right.
    Not before there is evidence of criminal intent, which a professing pedophile does not provide ipso facto.
    I certainly expect those of questionable sanity to think so.
    Funny how you can't seem to avoid spouting illogical nonsense in the attempt.
    That was a battle for equality of people who look different from birth, not who behave differently and insist on advertising it.
     
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    Not in my state. Sounds like a pretty blatant violation of the separation clause.
     
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    So, logically, then, you oppose religious freedom? Correct?

    For example, you favor repealing the laws which prohibit religious discrimination in government, right?
     
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    Hey Bozo don't mention the KKK with the Neo Nazi as a joint venture. Because their not.

    The Klan is a God Respecting, God Fearing Christian base.

    The Klan is an organization that's been around since the 1800's.

    But then again, what do you know....nothing.

    Just another simple mind ignorant *******, that ass licks those beneath dirt.
     
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    Is there any chance that you might consider going public with this stuff? Get a little radio show? Start an organization or something? You could be the best advertisement for gay equality since Fred Phelps. Don't just keep it here, Dixie, please get out in the real world and spread it around. Oh, I especially liked your post about Muslims and the cleansing of society. That could be a big help for us. I hope you're keeping these things for future use.
     
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    Umm... When did these folks ever need a reason? :)
     
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    Obviously not.
    The question is uselessly vague, but more pertinently cannot address the intellectual bankruptcy of the parallel between race and perversion.
     
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    Are you questioning the Christianity of Neo Nazis? I'll tell you what, pal, there's not a Neo Nazi out there who isn't every bit as fine a Christian as you are.
     
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    I grew up around members of both. I had family that joined both. I've been invited to join both. If I hadn't had educated parents that kept me from falling in with those worthless nutjobs, I might have even went through a retarded racist phase like several of my friends did. Not much difference between them besides their sense of fashion, but keep on pretending. Some of the Neo Nazi's aren't religious, but not many.

    Both groups relied heavily on the claim that white people are the lost tribe of Israel. No, seriously, these people actually believe that bull(*)(*)(*)(*).

    Ooooooh, so they are ooooold knuckle-dragging racist pricks. That changes everything.
     
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    I hate to admit it, but in a way he is right. In the KKK, you have to be "Christian." Neo-Nazis are mostly "Christian," but some are just generic theists or even pagan.
     
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    Oh well, I had to gave it a shot. I just love the idea of a Kluxer outraged at being compared to a Neo Nazi. :giggle:
     
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    Oh, don't worry, it is still hilarious. You brought out a side of dixie that I've never seen before. I never would have known he was a KKK apologist.
     
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    The claim that it is a perversion is only your bigoted opinion. I'll also point out that many just like you felt the same way about interracial marriage.

    I know you try to dismiss the parallels of gay-marriage to segregation and interracial marriage, because it destroys your position. However, they are functionally identical whether you bury your head in the sand or not.
     
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    It is a sin. You hate the sin not the person. Just because some one is gay or lesbian doesn't make it right. They have a choice and they have all the same rights as everyone else. The Bible says that a man should not sleep with another man like he sleeps with a woman.

    Tell me: If a person (He/She) has the urge to Steal, Vandalize, Rape or murder some one, does that make it right for them? It is a choice. One of the hardest things a person has to do in life is to say "no" to themselves. Too many people take the easy way out. It does create problems in society. It always has and always will. It affects the rights and views of traditional families trying to raise their kids with values. You have to draw a line some where and leave it there. The line was drawn a long time a go and they knew what they were doing. Everyone is trying to move the line to be convienent for them. What about what's best for the human race over all. We can't all have our way. If every one got there way all they time, It would be complete chaos every where. There would not be law....
     
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    Oh ok.

    So, you're a hypocrite, then? I'm just wondering, because when you argue that gays shouldn't be a protected class because homosexuality is a "choice", it would seem you'd either have to feel the same way about the choice of religion, or be a hypocrite.

    Like the below post, for example, wherein you reject the contention that gays deserve better than "separate but equal" because being gay is merely "behav[ing] differently":
    Since religion is merely a group of people who insist on "behaving differently" than other religions or the areligious, you have two choices:
    (1) You oppose laws protecting religious freedom on the grounds that a behavior which is a "choice" as opposed to being inate (like skin color) does not entitle one to equal protection under the law, or,
    (2) you are a hypocrite.
     
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    Certainly that's one way of looking at it. Another is that the assertion that it's only my opinion is only your bigoted opinion. ;)
    Actually I dismiss them because they're so clearly idiotic.

    Obviously not.
    You have me confused with someone else.
    I have no doubt it seems that way to the logically impaired.
    Your willfully crappy reading comprehension is no concern of mine.
    Actually there is a third alternative: bearing in mind that my objection to "gay marriage" does not rest solely on the fact that homosexuality is a behavior, I can take note (though not for the first time) of the fact that you're a bloody moron.
     
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    If the biblical Jesus actually existed, and there is no real evidence he did, he died 2000 years ago. So, there is no Jesus to rebel against.
     
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    tomteapack New Member Past Donor

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    All 50 states including Louisiana require anyone performing a marriage to bonded by the govt, and to fill out legal govt . marriage certificates.
     
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    ROFLOLOL--then you have not read Dixie's posts. I read to many, then ignored it so I would not have to see anymore bigotry of that sort.
     
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    I have it on good authority that the Klan was for the baser sort. Not really the type of people you'd socialize with. If you were Quality you belonged to the White Citizens Council.
     
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