Anyone Here Have Experience w/Methylene Blue & Dr. Eric Berg

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  1. joyce martino

    joyce martino Well-Known Member

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    It's short folks.

    My daughter is new with it and already feeling good benefits., My grandson brought it to her
    attention as he researches and loves loves holistic medicine...

    I'm considering it but am still researching and talking to others.
     
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    I went onto Dr. Berg's diet half a year ago and it worked!
     
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    Good what is unique to his diet? Eliminating WHITE FOODS will take off a lot of weight.

    I'd like to hear on the methyl blue stuff...
     
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    Bull, it's a healer that has been around since the 1800's and Pharma has kept it real real quiet, it heals

    Much, ; you are living in the dark...

    All those quack groups serve a purpose and all they attack I do the OPPOSITE...just like the LEFT govt. Speaking of LEFT govt how is your
    UK recession holding up for you.
     
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    More excellent info on this rather Miracle liquid.



    Thank goodness universe you guided my grandparents to the U.S. or I could be living in socialist grip... things are getting bad enough now due to Klause Schwaub and George Soros et al...


    My daughter is fighting the devasting damage from pharma drugs, she was young and believed the docs, and this Methyl Blue is making a huge change in her damaged body.....

    Pharma drugs are all toxic, some a lot more than others.
     
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    Berg does have it right about going low carb and avoiding seed oils

    blue, not sure....
     
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    None of your off-topic comments diminish the fact that Berg is a quack.
    The state of affairs in the UK has nothing to do with Berg being a quack.


    https://skepticalinquirer.org/exclusive/when-medicines-go-rogue-methylene-blue/
     
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    Berg is not a quack, you are in the DARK Much...and if Trump was able to go with the info he
    talked about in the beginning of the covid MESS, the drugs re: anti maleria and others, including
    Methylene Blue, things would have turned out so so opposite of what we have been thru.....But the
    fraud Facuchi was permitted to push his propaganda.....
     
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    More off-topic stuff that has nothing to do with Berg being a quack. I am very much aware of all the scientific research that was completed in many different countries that showed that the drugs you are talking about were useless related to covid. You have admitted to me you don’t read or follow anything scientific, yet make claims that I am in the dark. Ironic. These drugs if used during the pandemic would have resulted in massive deaths.

    Berg sells useless products and services for inflated prices with no actual science to back up his claims. He depends on people not checking out his claims and wasting their money on his quackery.

    Rather than trying to prove to me that he is not a quack by writing that I am in the dark, why don’t you provide some direct links to evidence that his products work in the way he says they do. And I don’t mean links to bullshit pedlars like Mercola.
     
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    If you have the faintest BIT of interest in this LONG old kinda miracle med, do your own work. I posted and now I
    am getting ready to take it myslf. Or keep your HEAD in the sandpile.

    I said Pharma has kept it from the population as it's low cost and it WORKS for many to change their life for the better,

    Your socialists docs won't know a thing about it. Or if they do they will deny knowing....
     
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    I do have an interest in revealing misinformation and quack doctors.

    It’s not a miracle med.

    It’s interesting how you always have to resort to personal insults and xenophobic comments rather than posting any links to support your contentions. Probably because there is absolutely no research to show the fish tank cleaner is a miracle medication. If you want to be believable post some links to research to prove me wrong.

    Our socialist doctors are required to ‘do no harm’ which is not prescribing untested, unproven, ‘miracle’ meds pushed by non-scientists/non-researchers on the internet. Only quacks promote useless sh*t it make money.
     
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    Required to do NO HARM, so are the U.S. docs and believe me plenty of harm is done to millions ----- there are mega lawsuits on medical mal practice and many that can't be accomplished since the medical world can cover their ARSSES....

    You have no clue, Much.....you know nothing about what goes on in the world with malpractice and bad drugs.

    Keeping your head where it is will keep you not knowing the TRUTHS.....
     
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    Methylene Blue:

    - apparently should be given via prescription only.
    - it is used in a clinical situation to treat methemoglobinemia via IV therapy.
    - common side-effects include headache, shortness of breath, vomiting, confusion, and high blood-pressure, serotonin syndrome.
    - it used to be used for cyanide poisoning and UTI’s but no longer as there are better more effective treatments
    - it is used to clean fish tanks
    - if too much is used it can actually cause methemoglobinemia
    - it’s also used a surgical dye

    That’s a very basic description.

    Have any of the uses that Dr Berg discusses actually been tested on a population of subjects in a blinded fashion or is he suggesting ‘experimental’ use of methylene blue?

    No doctor in their right mind would suggest the use of methylene blue for an ‘experimental’ purpose. You can’t say Big Pharma is against it, because the produce it for certain medical uses. It’s the holistic quacks that are suggesting misusing it. It is classified as a medication, not a ‘holistic’ supplement.

    How IRONIC that a person who goes on and on about ‘experimental’ vaccines is willing to mess around with a substance that isn’t tested related to Berg’s claims, therefore ‘experimental’. :roflol:
     
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    Much, you have NO CLUE.... It's helped 1000's for many yrs at least over 100 yrs.

    And of course NO mainstream allopathic doc would recommend it.

    But they push that experimental covid SHEET on millions....

    Dr. Berg is NOT allopathic.....I see no more allopathic docs anymore, I've had too much damage in my long life. Bye.
     
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    Okay, I will talk about this. If you actually go to the cited research that they are using to support the contention that Methylene Blue is a wonderful miracle drug that surpasses all, you will see the most of the studies are not human studies. They are either rat/mouse studies so therefore any of the results can’t be applied to humans or theoretical articles or studies where the number of subjects is insignificant.


    The claim that Methylene Blue has antidepressant properties is not supported by their link to a theoretical paper where it said due to its chemical properties it is a potential antidepressant — so one can’t make the claim it is an antidepressant.

    To further the support that MB can help regulate mood, a research paper was linked to with a subject pool of 31 manic-depressive patients where the conclusion was that it was likely no better than a placebo.

    Then there was the claim of the amazing ‘anti-inflammatory’ effects of MB — the author linked to mouse studies with no proof of efficacy in human trials. The author can’t claim that MB reduces inflammation and prevents cognitive decline until it is tested on a large number of humans.

    Did you even read the article you linked to because the key words are ‘potential’, ‘could’, ‘might’. Therefore, not proof of any miraculous effects.

    The weasel words used by the authors are astounding. They said that: “Methylene blue effectively treats sepsis by reducing inflammation and improving blood flow. (5) One study found that methylene blue improved survival rates in patients with sepsis significantly.” However, the study actually concluded “Methylene blue may play a role in the treatment of distributive shock when standard treatment fails.”

    Then the authors’s claimed, related to Parkinson Disease, that a recent study found that methylene blue can protect these neurons and prevent their death, potentially slowing or halting the progression of Parkinson's disease. (6) “ Note the words ‘can’ and ‘potentially’, that does not mean ‘does’. The cited study is actually a theoretical paper that concluded:
    MB could prove to be a versatile agent that could improve the health of patients suffering from the burden of neurodegenerative disorders and brain injury, giving them and their loved ones relief and a better quality of life.

    So again not proof of anything at all.

    The authors then go on to state MB is effective in treating malaria. However, the linked to study is from 2003 and describes MB as potential treatment.

    I could go on but I am anybody reading this post can see that the article you linked to is discussing potential health benefits, not real proven benefits.

    So where are your links to MB having ‘helped’ thousands for at least over a 100 years. From the article you linked to, it basically says it could potentially help a bunch of things.

    That ‘experimental covid SHEET’ has actually been tested on millions of human subjects therefore is not experimental because it has enough research and use to take it from ‘experimental’ to widely used accepted means of decreasing severe illness symptoms in vulnerable people. Whereas MB has not been tested on really anybody so it is being used ‘experimentally’ by quacks with no proof whatsoever. That article makes it seem like MB is a miracle health product but when you dig a little deeper all it is is a potential this, a potential that — untested for the most part on humans, based on theoretical models, and based on cell and mouse studies. Ironic how you perceive the covid vaccines as being experimental when they aren’t, yet can’t fathom MB is way more experimental and way less studied that vaccines. MB is POTENTIAL. As it stands, it is not some sort of miracle medication unless of course you don’t understand the meaning of the words ‘potential’, ‘can’, ‘could’ etc.

    I suppose next you are going to claim that homeopathy cures cancer.
     
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    Much, I'm not going to make that claim on homeopathy, but I do use homepathics, with success, for several areas and one is a very successful HGH homeopathic gel and I'm using it going on 3 yrs.... My daughter led me to the HGH....thanbk you my grown child. You are smart and getting wiser.

    And on MB take my info and all that is out there or FORGET IT.....

    Your loss and stick with all the toxic pharma drugs...
     
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    On the entire planet? NOTE: he doesn't wield that kind of power.
    Also note, trump didn't get rid of him. Who was in his job since Reagan days.

    If you want to follow a doctor, See Dr Mercolla. Also pushed holistic products to advance his bank account.
     
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    Mercola is so wise and if he makes a living at what he does, Why Not. I sure would. My info is free.

    The politicians are sitting on their fat ARSSES and screwing the world and make mega bucks...the corrupt govt feeds
    them.
     
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    And that’s good because it’s worthless.
     
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    Words from the typical Socialist. You have NOTHING good to offer....for you Much.
     
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    Let’s reword that a bit.

    Mercola is sitting on his skinny ARSE and screwing gullible people and making mega bucks selling quackery …
     

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