Anyone remember Bob Mcdonell?

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  1. bwk

    bwk Well-Known Member

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    http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show

    Back during the summer allegations broke out about Governor Bob Ultrasound Mcdonell and his wife about accepting money and gifts which may turn out to be bribes. Which is criminal. I also noticed the republicans never paid it much attention back then. It's very doubtful they will now. But for those who favor traditional republican values, I just thought it would be interesting to update everyone on how old Bob was holding up his end of the traditional value thing while he was governor. Enjoy!
     
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    The right-wingers will not accept what MSNBC has to say about, well, anything or any body.

    But the fact that former Governor McDonnell and his wife have been indicted on fourteen counts of corruption is the truth, regardless of the news source. This is a federal indictment.

    As the righteous Christians and family value Republicans they are, the McDonnells undoubtedly believe they had the right as God’s servants to the many illegal gifts from the political donor, and cannot understand why they are being persecuted.

    It will be comical to see the right-wingers condemn the federal investigation and indictment as a witch hunt while they defend the righteous McDonnells, and their accepting of illegal political gifts.
     
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    I really doubt that having a staffer pick up the family dry cleaning constitutes a "bribe".
     
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    The first right-winger to jump to the McDonnells' defense. How many more will there be?
     
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    That self righteous, arrogant SOB. It's about time he got indicted. Hope he goes to jail for a long time, and I hope his associates are quaking in their pants, waiting for their indictments. Falwell University? You're next, you corrupt SOB's.
     
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    Does rolex watches, Lamborginis, or paid for vacations, weddings, trips to extravagent stores, constitute bribes? (There's MUCH, MUCH more). The Feds have him nailed. Hypocritical, self righteous, bastard.
     
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    So the Secret Service bribed Obama when they gave him an expensive watch (that possibly has a tracking device in it)?
     
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    Glad to see Mcdonnel and his wife do the perp walk, its nice to see a corrupt politician go down. Of course this usually only happens to the republicans who get caught not the democrats who are found to be corrupt even hiding the money in their freezers. Democrats are much more likely to circle the wagons around one of their own and protect them, republicans usually are drummed out of their political life and once the lawyers get their money the politician usually does jail time, or at least community service.
     
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    But accepting money and gifts does while paying the gifts back in the form of promoting a product of the guy handing out the gifts.
     
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    Did the secret service ask Obama to promote the watch? Because I doubt the secret service made the watch, or is in partnership with the watch company.
     
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    It's what they do best.

    What's right for me, isn't necessarily what's right for some one else. And anything that becomes convenient in their lives, becomes right. That's how they play the game.
     
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    Did you happen to pay attention to the wife up at the podium next to Mcdonnell? She looked like someone who was heading straight to the slammer. Scared to death!
     
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    I don;t know about the first part but I am pretty sure the secret service did have the watch made (I am convinced that is how their system knows exactly where the POTUS is on campus at any given second.)
     
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    From what I have read his wife is the only one who ever went to one of their events. Just out of curiosity, how do you see this compared to John Edwards close "personal friend" and donor paying off his baby momma and showering her with love? He wasn't convicted for that. The issue may end up being a conflict of laws from what I read since this is Virginia, the Governor of Virginia, and apparently the Virginia laws are very lax on the subject. Also from what I read, a lot of it was just free outings, some trips on a private plane, use of their weekend home--the sorts of things that friends do for each other that really don't cost the imputed "value".
     
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    Making the watch yourself or having it made are two different things. If the secret service had the watch made as you are pretty sure they did, what about it? There is nothing illegal about that. So, I'm not sure if you are trying to draw a comparison between Obama and his watch with Mcdonnell, or just ranting on about nothing. Because there is no comparison between the two gifts.
     
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    It doesn't matter who went to the events. Somebody did, and Mcdonnell promoted the product. As for Edwards, the donor never asked Edwards to sell off the baby momma, and Edwards never tried selling any products for the donor in exchange. That is the difference.
    Free outings and trips, then you go and promote my product is illegal in the eyes of the law. It doesn't matter. Tangible gifts that he and his wife got were off the chain; Here's the list of items; http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show
     
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    And the gifts don't seem to really matter--it was the not reporting the gifts and then trying to cover up that they were not reported that seems to have gotten him in trouble based on the article I read about the indictments.
     
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    Okay lets act like grown folk a second. Politicians do not get into office for the good of the people regardless if it Republican, Democrat, Tea Party, Libertiarian, or any of the umpteen others. Really simple they do it to get rich? Honestly, I am fine with it, as long as they are honest about it. Lets take the blinders off for a second and relize this is what they do. he and his wife will get a slap on the wrist because they can bring down others and this will be a dead issue in a few months. Hell he can run for president afterwards.
     
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    Negative! It was that the gifts that were received, and in return they would promote a product for the donor. That's what's getting them in trouble. They took a bribe in return for promoting a private product someone else wanted to sell. Pretty simple to understand. Twisting what they did won't advance your argument. It is what it is.
     
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    Taking bribes is tradition for both sides.

    However, Governor Ultrasound broke new ground in sissy church boy bible thumping and turning back the clocks.
     
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    Negative! He's done and everyone knows it. Taking gifts by a politician in exchange for promoting the gift givers product by that politician, is against the law. They might slap them on the wrist. Who knows? It is still illegal. You do something illegal in office, and the presidency is not an option for you. So you can forget that.
     
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    Taking bribes is tradition for both sides.

    However, Governor Ultrasound broke new ground in sissy church boy bible thumping and turning back the clocks.


    I thought the 60's revolution got rid of those types of idiots. They're all like John Lithgow's character in Footloose, and the rednecks from Easy Rider, and the cops from Mississippi Burning.
     
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    Talking about both sides isn't relevant, and it won't change a thing for Mcdonnell.

    - - - Updated - - -

    It's because it is a real scandal. Those other one's are plastic made up scandals.
     
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    You think McDonald will do time?...or his wife?...I'm asking because I haven't heard a legal analysis yet.
     
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    That's one of the draw backs for conservative media's decision to keep all their eggs in one basket, Fox News.

    More Americans watch a combination of ABC, CBS, NBC, MSNBC, and CNN for their news then people who watch Fox. If Ailles, Rove, and Murdoch encouraged expansion of conservative networks, there would be more coverage for Benghazi, NSA, and IRS.

    But you guys still don't have any smoking guns for all 3 of those "so called" scandals. That's another reason nobody cares but Fox.
     

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