AQ Leader Anwar al-Awlaki Killed in Yemen

Again, it only gave the president the power to engage in a police pursuit against individuals involved in 9/11. That's well and good and Constitutional under the define and punish clause.

But it does not mean that Congress gave the president to authority to abrogate someone's due process rights. Congress CAN'T give the president THAT power.

 

Islam is not a belief. It is an all comsuming and all defining Satanic murder cult and it is a form of governemnt and a mechanism of violence and ultimate control that pollutes all sectors of society from education, the home, the courts, and ruling athorities, and they have declared war as is clearly obvious even though they are superficially extra governmental organizations, and they are very tangable, that to is clear. Their due process starts and ends with injustice and death, that to, is vibrantly HD clear.

 

I'm not arguing against you paranoia. The fact the remains that only states can declare war and thereby invoke the laws of war. Not private organizations, individuals, beliefs, concepts, abstractions, or even Satanic murder cults.

Do you want a "Satanic murder cult" to have the international authority to declare war and thereby invoke the laws of war and thereby abrogate our due process, as they are under war? No, of course you don't.

 

Just send their murderous asses back to whatever camel flea infested desert they came from, and good fricking ridence.

 

I'm not paranoid. I am right. These Islamo extra government organizations have infact declared war, and in many cases they recieve funding from recognized governments. It does not matter what I want, the reality is that it is a fact, I think that the 3000 victims of Islamonazism may possibly think that they were robbed of due process, as well as the 250 innocent persons who lost their lives in our African embasies, as well as the sailors on the Cole, etc..

 

Totally irrelevant as to whether a legal state of war exists. Al Qaeda can't declare war in any legally binding way, in a way that invokes the laws of war and causes them to apply to the situation. Since it can't, it remains a criminal organization committing crimes. It can't change the legal state in question by what it says.

 

It does not matter that it can't, whats relevant is that it did and they have and are actively engaging in combat operations against us and others. Islam is evil to its very core and that is by the design of its false prophet creator.

 

Has your argument gotten so convoluted that you are now asserting war is some agreed upon legally binding contract? What utter folly.

 

Quote where it states that.

Can't you read? Yes it does. You think the Japanese soldiers we engaged on Iwo Jima got due process? Even those we capture don't get habeous corpus or right to face accuser or jury of their peers.

 

Is this due process

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The law is what the law is. Your hatred of Islam doesn't just the law. Al Qaeda has no authority to invoke the laws of war.

 

It must be legally declared by a state against a state for the laws of war to apply.

Why on Earth would you think or want to think that anyone can just throw due process out the window merely by saying something is a war.

Seriously, I can't fathom where you folks get the bottomless faith in politicians in Washington to kill people whenever they want...so long as they say the word "war."

"That the President is authorized to use all necessary and appropriate force against those nations, organizations, or persons he determines planned, authorized, committed, or aided the terrorist attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001, or harbored such organizations or persons..."

That was in the context of a declared war between state belligerents.

 

The focus by you is on Islam but their God is the same as the God in the Bible. It is the same Old Testament translation in another language that Jesus followed too.
If it is evil, all religion is evil since they the same.

The sad thing is that you couldn't even provide a reason why you carry the amount of hate and need to kill that boils in your blood.
Is it the good in you or would you consider it the evil?

 

Has war actually been declared?

I think not...

These are the realities of the world, when justice is handed out by those who twist words for ca$h...

Work Will Not Set You Free...



An abortion clinic is not "Planning Parenthood"...

 

The part of your quote I bolded I totally agree with. Al-Qaeda is operating as a proxy for recognized states yet we don't do a thing to these states. The madrassas in Pakistan are doing exactly the same thing as al-Awlaki was and they remain untouched. For that matter, so do the states that fund these madrassas.

We seem to be playing some shell game where we 'pretend' to be in a war on terror while we ignore the state sponsors of that terror. We cut off the branches but ignore the root.

I would say if you're offended about the 9/11 victims, then you should be offended at the game our govt is playing. Personally, that bothers me and also this new tool the govt has put in its toolbox is made for abuse as it was in this case, IMO.

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"The Pakistani government was aware of a network of radical madrassas that were recruiting, indoctrinating, and training young boys and girls in Punjab province to fight with the Taliban and other terrorist groups, but failed to move against them, according to a leaked US State Department cable. The network of madrassas was receiving much of its funding from "missionary" and "Islamic charitable organizations" in Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates.

The secret US diplomatic cable, dated Oct 13, 2008, and titled "Extremist recruitment on the rise in south Punjab madrassas," is one of thousands released by WikiLeaks and published at Dawn. The cable paints a disturbing picture of radical Islamic groups running rampant in the Pakistani province of Punjab, and a government unwilling or unable to stop the spread of terrorist groups that have been sowing havoc in Pakistan, Afghanistan, India, and beyond.

The cable was sparked by the US State Department's "Principal Officer's discussions with religious, political, and civil society leaders" during a visit to the southern Punjabi cities of Multan and Bahawalpur. Pakistani government officials and religious leaders described "a strengthening network of Deobandi and Ahl-e-Hadith mosques and madrassas, which they claimed had grown exponentially since late 2005."

The network of radical mosques and madrassas was being funded by religious and nonprofit entities based in Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates who are thought to be backed by those governments."

Link.... http://www.longwarjournal.org/archives/2011/05/pakistani_government_2.php

 

Just do it, tired of all those terrorist and their supporters crying out foul and demands justice when they get killed, well they got their justice alright
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Many Muslim-Americans are native born citizens. I have friends that are native born Muslim-Americans. They are honest, hard-working people. They actually are more peaceful than some non-Muslims in my community.

Once again, you have made a sweeping generalization based upon no extensive study of the religion, its doctrine, its followers, its different schools of belief, or possibly experiences you may have had with Muslim-Americans. I have a fundamental understanding of Islamic history, basic principles such as Pilgramage and the Five Pillars of Islam, and have had conversations with fellow Muslim-Americans. I have recently done some leisure research on the Shari'a. From what I've discovered, making the generalization that all followers of Islam are looking to destroy the United States is untrue. The Shari'a has so many schools of thought, and millions of individualized interpretations. It is essentially a personal code of conduct, similar but not tantamount to the Ten Commandments.

If you do have substantive reasoning for your opinions, please showcase it.

 

Vigilantism plays well on the screen with a blue collar hero.


The leader of the free world picking of citizens for hate speech without charges or evidence, much less a trial plays more like a nightmare.

 

Wrong, Awlaki is not a US citizen he is an islam a Muslim not an American a MUSLIM his loyalty is to Islam alone, he is a traitor, a criminal, and a terrorist.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GmijlOwnXuE&feature=related:gun:

 

Wrong...

He, in fact, was a US citizen, regardless of his religious beliefs, or distortions, as they were...

But, the fact that he sided with an unlawful enemy led to his death...

But, don't get it twisted, no sorrow for him here...

 

While I have no problem with whacking the SOB's where we find 'em, I do have a problem with Liberals attacking Bush, for far less than what Obama is doing and they cheer. Awlaki is vermin, a cockroach. We need to exterminate them any way we can till there aren't enough of them with the balls or brains to attack like the time square screw up bomber. They need to choose the prison with the largest Aryan Brotherhood population and put him in general population. The rest will take care of itself.

 

Care to give an example? ANd then I do mean high up liberals not some post on a message board.

 

Your telling me that police are.going around and assasinating completely innocent people.. Im not talking about people who resist arrest, or who have past criminal records.. Im talking about just walking up to someone and shooting them?

 

There'll be more screw ups.

But then, there'll be an attack that will make 9/11 look like a picnic in the park (and this time it might actually be done by terrorists).

Americans are too stupid to realise this though.

 

You do realise that Islam is not a nationality, don't you?

Islam is a religion. "American" is a nationality.

There are American Muslims. Don't you understand the difference between religion and nationality?

Plus, one can't be "an Islam". Islam is the religion, and the followers are Muslims.

My god, the ignorance in here is astounding.

LOL