Arab League 'categorically' refuses to recognize Israel as Jewish state

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    Good, we can stop this nonsense soon enough,


    Also said they will send them 100 MIL $ every month, perhaps they will pay the electric bill now ?
     
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    I don't think so. They hate jews, but love jewish money..
     
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    Then they can suck it out of Jordan, we are heading toward another intifada anyway, this time Israel should caught off the PLO, nothing good came out of it anyway.
     
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    Why if they can get it free from Israel?
    I'm not so sure. Times have changed.
    It was clear from the beginning.
     
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    I trust our politicians they do nothing for free, but whatever they got its not worth the price, the debt is over a billion now and we are paying for it, let them go to International courts and let us severs all ties, what needs to be done should be done ASAP.

    National feeling will always prevail in our area, Rammalla will forefit its economic prosperity when things get heat up IMO, the rest got nothing to lose.

    I was a "blue shirt" in my youth :), leftie all the way, reality crashed all my dreams :(
     
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    Yet Jordan and Egypt have a peace treaty with Israel.
     
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    Treaty is the word, we can have a treaty with the Palestinians too but we wont do it at the current price.
     
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    What more do you want?
     
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    After being defeated by Israel and paid by US. Really peaceful boys.
     
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    Strange, I read the article and it only guesses at what the final resolution will be, and of course what the Arabs are refusing to do is recognise the state of Israel as a pre condition of peace talks.

    So what we have is, Arabs refuse to accept Israel preconditions, and the zionist's say "look Arabs do not really want peace because they won't do what we want before talks begin!"

    And the spin goes on.
     
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    Arab League summit rejects call to recognize Israel as Jewish state

    The Arab League declared on Wednesday a full backing of a Palestinian refusal to meet Israel's demand to be recognized as a Jewish.

    "We express our total rejection of the call to consider Israel as a Jewish state," read a final statement from the last day of the two-day Arab summit in Kuwait.

    http://www.jpost.com/Breaking-News/...ll-to-recognize-Israel-as-Jewish-state-346541
     
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    The continued subjugation of the Palestinian subjects. It's very cheap labor after all. Think of it as a more violent expression of the African slaves in the North American Continent circa late 1700's-1850's(when the practice was finally outlawed). Israel won't let go of its colony without "reassurances" on many fronts, surprisingly few of them will deal with security.

    Another way of looking at it: If Israel genuinely saw Palestine as part of the Jewish State(and governed it as such), Hamas/extremist fighters wouldn't be able to exist in the area. Yet the Palestinian areas are secluded, why? I'll tell you: Palestine is a financial haven for Israel.. As long as the Palestinians "need aid", aid will come in for the Jewish Community. They themselves administer the "aid" and determine whether or not the poor saps will have any.

    "Little attention was given to promoting local entrepreneurship or the business sector, and where such initiatives
    threatened to compete with existing Israeli firms were in fact actively discouraged. "

    "In the year 2008 and 2009 Palestinian trade was seriously hampered by a number of restrictions, including
    the separation wall which caused a decrease of Palestinian export to Israel, accounting for 90% of the
    entire Palestinian export."

    http://www.paxvoorvrede.nl/media/files/analysing-israels-economic-policy-towards-palestine-2012.pdf

    This is why it's laughable when Netanyahu cries out "No Pre-conditions", what that means is continued Israeli hegemony on the Palestinian economy and its people. I don't blame the Palestinians for not wanting to come to the table. That's like trading a dollar for 10 cents. Sure, it's cheap as hell now but "acceptance of Israeli hegemony" would end any viable attempts of a Palestinian government.

    To them, they want to preserve that dollar, cheap as it is, it's better than losing even more to the Israeli hegemony.
     
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    No, you didn't.
     
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    Presumably you have some reason for making this incorrect assumption about someone thousands of miles away?

    Do back up your statement with how you know what I did or did not read, otherwise you look like I pantomime audience " oh no he didn't" "oh yes he did"
     
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    Interesting, so why should they recognise Israel as a jewish state when it has so many non Jews in it?

    And does that mean they have no partner for peace?

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    What price?

    And, why should they recognise Israel as a jewish state when it has so many non Jews in it?

    And does that mean they have no partner for peace?
     
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    Just compare what you've written and what is written in the article.
     
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    Some said when peace comes we will trade freely with the Arabs, economy will bloom and crap like that, dont get me wrong - treaty is good, but I wont roll my pants down for it...
     
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    Not precondition, they refuse to put it in writing in the agreement, they refuse to ever recognize it as such.
     
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    Im gussing here but I think its because you said its a precondition when they siad they will NEVER recognize it or even willing to discuss it.
     
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    Thats an evasion, the state was declared Jewish even when it has other minorities in it, says so in Israel Indipendance declaration, the reason such statement is important is to cease further demands and hostileties from the Palestinians on our land, now we know that no declaration will stop Hamas but by doing so it will put PLO vs Hamas at least on paper, it also means the orgenized incitement will stop - we care for such things...

    If they can't utter the words "Jewish state" than some other declaration in needed to make certain none of the above will happen - at least in regard of their state law, and no, saying Israel exists means nothing, Iran also knows Israel exists.

    They have no partner for the kind of peace they had in mind.


    Entire 67 lines including Jerusalem and the Temple mount (West Wall as well), refugee issue remains open for "suggestions", no recognition in the Jews RIGHT to own a country, Hamas pretty much left untouched.- in short just an Israeli retreat.
     
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    Why is that an evasion? If you wish to declare your state Jewish thats on you. Your minorities dont agree so why should your neighbours or those you occupy?

    Also, a Jewish state means that if the demographic balance changes then Judaism and Jewish will still hold sway, which is immoral. So how can anyone recognise that?

    We all know Israel exists. Even Iran.

    You can have the 67 lines, but share Jerusalem, refugees can dealt with by monetary compensation, Jews can have no more RIGHT than anyone else.

    Thats easy and something you can easily reach to.
     
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    There nevertheless exists an economic relationship that has and will continue to benefit both sides.

    Israelis see business ties with Egypt continuing

    http://www.globes.co.il/en/article-1000760280

    Israel-Jordan sign $500 million natural gas deal

    http://www.timesofisrael.com/israel-jordan-sign-500-million-natural-gas-deal/
     
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    Im sure you and me can reach an agreemnet in two days but that's not the problem, I need to trust what's being released in the media + public declarations, I saw with my own eye a Palestinian official saying they want the West Wall as well, perhaps its just a pressure tool - perhaps they really do mean it.

    On the Jewish state - fine, they need to make another statement that will signal the end of future demands.
     
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    These statements according to what Ive mentioned have been made over and over again across the years. Of course Palestinians dont want the West wall, they dont pray to it. Theyd just rather not keep getting thrown out of homes in EJ.
     

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