What I want to see is, if there are other people who, like me consider the Austrians Germans. Considering that we can't talk about a unified Kingdom until in 1701 Prussia conquered all the german kingdoms: Bavarian Kingdom, Hanoverian Kingdom, Saxony Kingdom, Württemberg Kingdom and a few more Duchies. Can we consider Austria one of those german kingdom, thus the austrians having the same blood?
Deutschland is named after it's people, not it's people named after their country. it would be perfectly natural for some Austrians to refer to themselves as Germans as long as they don't call themselves German citizens without the proper paperwork.
It's true that they can't call themselves German citizens, being two countries. But you think we can culturally link them?
I mean, language, architecture, music, dishes... I have never been to Germany yet, but I've been to Vienna, and I saw that the architecture resembles some german made cities in Romania.
Germany is beautiful.. I have been there many times.. but the best trip was for 6 weeks. I love Austria as well.. You should go.. I got to go to the 1964 Winter Olympics in Innsbruck. But it seems to me that the culture of Austria and Germany is quite different. The Germans seem to look down on the Austrians to me.
Well, there are differences even between german lands, like Saxony and Saarland. So of course there will be differences.
The germanic race actually has much diversity within it. The germanic race encompasses the german and scandinavian ethnicities, and has also made contributions to the finnish, british, scottish, irish, russian, and baltic peoples. There is even a significant amount of diversity within the germanic ethnicity in germany. That being said, the differences between different regional german ethnicities in germany is not any less than the differences between ethnic germans in Austria and those in Germany. The germans in Austria tend to look different from the Germans in Bavaria, but they are both ethnically and culturally german. Most of the people in the northern part of Switzerland are also ethnically and culturally german. The differences are more regional and political, since the ethnic germans in all three countries (Germany, Austria, Switzerland) speak the same language and have very similar cultures.
Austrians are the lower quality second hand German. This is like Texans are the lower quality second hand Mexicans. One exception though: Graz is way KOOL, espacially its toy and model building industries. Side question: are Hungarians a form of the German too, like the Swiss and the Dutch are? I am asking this because in history, Hungary always behaved identically to Germany.
I really don't understand why you consider Austrians second hand and lower quality Germans. Can you please be more explicite? Now about you question. Hungarians are Ugric people, they are affiliate with Finnish and Estonian people. They come mostly for todays Khazakhstan. The Hungarians might behave like the Germans because they were part of the Austro-Hungarian Empire. They've been influenced by the Austrians.
I think Austrians are the lower quality German because by far the highest number of wars in Europe was initiated by the Austrian people, as opposed to the German people of Germany. This includes Holy Roman Emperor Leopold II of the Habsburgs, whos specifically Austrian advisors made him start a 30 year long religious war all across the German lands in the early 1700's. During this war, 60 % of the Hungarian population and 40 % of the North German population was killed by troops payed by Austrian sources. Then, I understand that Austria started ww1, and ww2 started by the Austrian Hitler. The bloodthirsty nature of Austrians was pointed out even by the Ottoman scholars as early as the 17th century. Austrians are bad news.
You accuse the Austrian people for the decisions made by the kings. That doesn't sound fair to me because after your criteria the French, British and Turks are illitarate primitives.
Did you all know that Dutch-speaking folks look(ed) down on German-speaking folks! And the English-speaking folks look down on Dutch-speaking folks (out of jealousy). Examples in English language: "going Dutch", "Dutch comfort", "Dutch act", "Dutch generosity", "Dutch treat",... Anyways, Dutch-speaking folks are the best of the land! Only kidding
Apparantly, the Northern Dutch (= Netherlands) look(ed) down on Germans... Here, in Southern Netherlands (=Flanders, Belgium) not so. However, quite remarkable, we sometimes -- even the young generation -- for laughs often refer to our friends with German ancestry or to Germans as "Den Duits". So we refer to all Germans as "The German" -- so it's not meant in a good way. Older people still often use "Den Duits" -- even to refer to Germany as a country. I guess it's difficult to explain...
Yes, Netherlands suffered immense under Nazi-opression, less so in Belgium because we had a different type of "governing system" imposed by Berlin.
