Are Democrats turning into fascists?

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  1. a better world

    a better world Well-Known Member

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    Gosh your partisanship is now on full view. You are not listening to what I am saying at all.

    Is Biden a crook? In any case, he is ensconced in neoliberalism, his main weakness. If he would understand MMT, he can save America from becoming a failed state on the verge of civil war.
     
  2. Ddyad

    Ddyad Well-Known Member

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    That government is inherently evil is obvious. Review human history, or read Marx, Lenin, or Common Sense.
    Of course, government is also necessary.

    Rigged elections and fake ballots do not count - in a democratic republic.
     
  3. Ddyad

    Ddyad Well-Known Member

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    LOL! You obviously do not read my posts.
    I routinely denounce RP pols as low down crooked scum - you know - like DP pols.

    Joe Biden is is unusually corrupt and racist - even for a Democrat politician.

    "The quote is accurate as reported and reads in full:

    Unless we do something about this, my children are going to grow up in a jungle, the jungle being a racial jungle with tensions having built so high that it is going to explode at some point. We have got to make some move on this.

    We contacted the Biden campaign for comment but received no response in time for publication."

    "Because Biden made the remark about a “racial jungle,” we rate this claim as a “Correct Attribution.”
    SNOPES, Fact Checks. Politics, Did Joe Biden Say He Didn’t Want His Kids Growing Up in a ‘Racial Jungle’?, BETHANIA PALMA, 10 MARCH 2020.
    https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/biden-racial-jungle-quote/
     
  4. a better world

    a better world Well-Known Member

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    Only if men were naturally given to voluntary co-operation, then that statement might have merit. But sadly, that is not the case.

    See above.

    Fake news.
     
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    OK, but your "government is evil" mantra relies on the delusion of "voluntary cooperation" (the Libertarian fantasy).

    I'm hoping AOC's MMT views will be able to influence him.


    Thanks for this. I'm not around the details of that (1994?) statement by Biden. Actually his concept of a "racial jungle" is decidedly like this statement by Trump in 2016:

    You are living in poverty, your neighborhoods are like war zones, your schools and hospitals are broken, your young men are in prison..."

    IOW, Biden's "racial jungle" statement is not so much racist, as a recognition of the need for law and order in the black ghettos. Are you going to claim Trump is racist, on the basis of his quoted statement above?

    Note: to change the situation in the black ghettos, requires large-scale public-sector intervention, including a Job Guarantee, as recognised by AOC, for example.

     
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    The answer the question in the op is yes.
     
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    What will you do if you're called before a 'Truth and Reconciliation' commission
     
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    That is not true. Benito Mussolini had been expelled from the Italian Socialist Party (ISP) four years prior to his founding the National Fascist Party. His support of military intervention in WWII and his attention-seeking ways were the reasons for his expulsion from the ISP. So the assertion that Mussolini was simultaneously a socialist and a fascist is quite spurious. Now, of course, such notions are always put forth to show some sort of conflation between socialism and fascism where nothing of the sort exists. But they are no less ridiculous and insulting than was, say, the Nazis' usurpation of the term "socialist" toward the creation of their idiotic and wholly contradictory "National 'Socialist' German Workers Party." (It is contradictory because nationalism and socialism are diametrically opposed to one another. Fascists embrace nationalism while we socialists reject it out of hand.)
     
  9. Thedimon

    Thedimon Well-Known Member

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    If he was expelled from it, that means he was a member. That also means that prior to him being expelled, he wanted to be their member and they wanted him to be their member as well.

    Started out as same ideology with a few upgrades.
     
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    Yet another unresponsive post that offers nothing to contradicts anything from my post.
    In fact, "progressives" all over the world praised Mussolini and Hitler before Germany violated the Hitler/Stalin Pact and invaded the USSR. There are countless examples. You have seem to have been disinformed.

    "With this ideological background of the time, Fidel clearly revealed who his heroes were in his personal life. He walked soberly around the campus with a copy of *Mein Kampf (La Lucha) under his arm; in his room, he had a map on his wall upon which he charted the movements and successes of the Axis armies across Europe; for hours, he would stand before a mirror holding a primitive, early recorder, and mimicking Mussolini's speeches over and over again." Georgie Anne Geyer, "Guerilla Prince," "The Untold Story of Fidel Castro," Little Brown & Company, Boston 1991, p 42.
     

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