Are people born to dislike and fear homosexuals?

Did I say I was a drag queen? Did I say I liked dressing up as a woman? Did you know a lot of males who do are actually straight?
As to the spine snapping move this isn't really the right thread to discuss martial arts skills or bother with proving I'm what you call 'a tough guy.I was simply doing you the favour of acquainting you with the fact that if you go around in the real world expressing some of your ideas face to face one day you're going to get yourself in very deep, and no, that wasn't a double entendre. Maybe though that's the only way you're going to learn not all fairies are made of fairy floss?
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2009/10/31/is-ultimate-fighting-gay.html
http://gaynewsnetwork.com.au/sport/lgbt-martial-arts-group-18221.html
http://www.advocate.com/comedy/2014/12/10/10-lgbt-athletes-who-prove-were-real-toughies

 

People need to stop trying to hammer gay people. And I'm glad the LGBT are learning to fight back. All these people out here playing "God" hasn't helped 'anyone'.

 

If by playing God you mean those who imagine their bigotry and fear is justified by scripture they are decades behind modern biblical scholarship. However, given their desperate psychological need to believe their holy books the infallible Word of God they're not about to go asking intelligent questions about scripture. As to 'learning to fight back' a significant number of us formed gay & lesbian martial arts clubs in many Australian cities during the early days of the AIDS epidemic when redneck homophobes thought they'd been given a good excuse to bash and murder us. Rest assured they soon learnt not to hang around gay beats hoping to find easy victims, which to my eternal glee, is exactly what they became.

 

It is not even a question of the bible, it is about Bigots that cherry pick scripture to back their own personal beliefs and ignorance, and when you show them scriptural evidence, they still believe not.
Much like the folks Jesus called Vipers.

 

Soooo what is this evidence you've both "seen and felt" that shows-

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Nothing in your "answers" even addresses even one of the 7 questions asked.

 

A great deal of this has to do with the bible and it's fundamentalist misinterpretation. For centuries the confused mess that is the Old and New Testament has been held up as justification for bigotry and hatred so extreem our kind were often burnt at the stake. Those of us who imagine the bible not worth looking at need to realise the bigots arguments are totally empty. The best way to prove it is to shove their faces in the evidence, that is what the bible actually tells us and, more importantly, doesn't tell us, They're going to continue in their delusion of being justified in their hatred if we dont come armed with an understanding of what the bible doesn't say.
A good place to start is Jacques Berlinerblau's "The Secular Bible: Why Nonbelievers Must Take Religion Seriously" (Publl' Cambridge University Press)

 

If you believe in evolution, then yes, people are born with certain dislikes for certain people. In the animal kingdom, the individuals who are weak or counterproductive pose a threat to the survival of the pack/herd/flock/etc and even the species. Such individuals are often expelled from the group or are killed outright. In evolution, the primary objective is procreation, and since homosexual individuals use resources, yet do not contribute to the continuation of the group, such individuals are culled.

If you believe humans evolved from animals, then those same traits are almost certainly still present in humans today.

 

Are you serious? Do not contribute to the continuation of the group? Tell that to the many gay military leaders who've fought and conquered other tribes/nations over the centuries and that's before we get onto philosophers, scientists, architects, mathematicians etc. This discussion, apart from the obvious evolutionary defence, appears to me to be no more than a desperate struggle to justify internal phobias and hatreds.

 

Technology has progressed at an incredible rate, I remember a time when a telephone was a fixed device, then amateur radio made it possible to talk to other Countries using links, I once spoke to another ham using a battery powered portable handheld radio, he was in Australia on his back porch using a similar radio.

My first computer filled a desk top and underparts with equipment, was bulky and not portable, my phone and tablets have more computer processing power than that 200MMX, and can do much more, I remember Win 3.1, now Win 10,
In spite of technology, we still have cavemen among us, these are willing to harm someone else because that person is different, or Gay, sadly there are many mentally Ill and maladjusted people in the World.

 

We all still have a caveman inside our heads. On the evolutionary time scale the human forebrain (the 'clever bit') developed overnight without any compensating balance being established with the primitive id. This has given birth to a species so smart we can wipe ourselves off the planet with nuclear war, biological warfare or by simply ignoring our negative influnce on climate. A terrifying analysis of the problem was first approached in detail in Arthur Koestler's 'The Ghost in The Machine'. His thesis I suggest has never been satisfactorilly refuted.
And yes, every age needs it's witch to burn, gays, witches, blacks, protestants, the infidel - - an endless list of 'others' outside the tribe.
We are the most dangerous species on the planet and the danger is mainly to ourselves.
Almost enough to make one believe in the doctrine of original sin except in this case we had no choice. We do now and have thrust our collective heads in the sand.

 

Certainly sexual desire is heightened by the onset puberty. Duh. However according to David Satcher, MD, PhD, former US Surgeon General, in his July 9, 2001 report titled "The Surgeon General's Call to Action to Promote Sexual Health and Responsible Sexual Behavior," wrote: "Sexual orientation is usually determined by adolescence, if not earlier, and there is no valid scientific evidence that sexual orientation can be changed."

 

Notice how the disputed claim doesn't as much as even mention sexual orientation. I wont dispute the claim that puberty had no effect upon how you boys were attracted to others. I did specify someone with a normal sex drive

 

Whatever 'your' definition is of normal aside, behavior can be normal for an individual (intrapersonal normality) when it is consistent with the most common behavior for that person. Definitions of normality vary by person, time, place, and situation. Tag, your it.

 

Here, I'll just put back in, what you took the time to edit out.

"Behaviour can be normal for an individual (intrapersonal normality) when it is consistent with the most common behaviour for that person. Normal is also used to describe individual behaviour that conforms to the most common behaviour in society (known as conformity). Definitions of normality vary by person, time, place, and situation."

The part you knew to be relevant to my use of the word normal. Which is why you edited out so you could continue this stupid act.

 

But this is interesting. Do all homosexuals agree with the statement that

 

I sure agree the onset of puberty had nothing to do with how I was attracted to others having spent days sitting on the stone sea wall staring at an athletic man in speedos who sunbaked summer and winter near my house . Long before even a hint of puberty all I could think of was how I could get him to allow me to run my hands all over his magnificent body. Semi naked females on that same beach never triggered anything like that reaction.

 

A simple yes or no would suffice.

 

No, Graphic details are better.
Tea would suffice, Earl Grey with lemon is much better !

 

Before you post, it helps to read Post #1 to know the topic, and to read the previous posts to understand the conversation. Try that first, then try commenting again.

 

You are too condescending, learn what it means to be decent and humane, then after a good time out in the corner, you may rejoin the conversation, there's a good chap !

 

Again, read post #1 so you know the proposed question to address, and if you are too squeamish to address the question then you can skip the entire thread.

The question is, Are people born to dislike and fear homosexuals? The scientific answer - the evolutionary answer - is yes. If you don't like that answer then go back to biology 101.

 

On line forums give people whose daily lives are powerless the joy of making rules and slapping others on the wrist for breaking them.
Water off a duck's back.

 

Did the details induce repulsion or fear dear? What is it with the censorious attitude rampant in this place?
No doubt if I'd said 'yes' or 'no' I'd be criticised for not providing evidence, albeit anecdotal. You can't win.

 

Yes. My experiences were similar. My physical and/or romantic attractions, have never been for the opposite sex; ever. My dreams about sex (as a teen) were about other boys. My 'crushes' were on other males in my classes.

Being gay for most, isn't necessarily being some confused version of a heterosexual. It is one's sexual orientation, not mere preference or "lifestyle".