Are teachers willing to carry guns in schools? 18% say yes

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  1. TOG 6

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    Speaking of which...
    Which guns cannot be used to commit armed robbery?
     
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    How does such actually qualify as being a constitutional right in the united states?
     
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    Why not ?

    Robotics can build automobiles, weld, even do surgery, and many other precision work.

    I could envision a specialized automated truck, with a hydraulic boom on the back and a robotic picker on the boom that picks oranges, and sorts them to the correct bins by flexible hoses and even the spoiled or discards go to the correct bins.
     
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    https://spectrum.ieee.org/automaton...-plant-tend-and-harvest-entire-crop-of-barley

    Agriculture is no stranger to autonomy. Tractors were among the first commercial autonomous vehicles, and there’s a huge market for drones packed with sensors that can help farmers make more informed decisions. The problem, though, is that farming is still work for humans. There’s still dirt, early mornings, dirt, more dirt, and a lot of hard work that involves some extra dirt. All this dirty-ness makes farming an ideal target for robots, especially since farms also offer repetitive tasks in a semi-constrained environment. At Harper Adams University, they’re taking the farm autonomy idea very seriously: Seriously enough that they’ve managed to plant, tend, and harvest an acre and a half of barley using only autonomous vehicles and drones.


    During the Hands Free Hectare project, no human set foot on the field between planting and harvest—everything was done by robots. This includes:


    • Drilling channels in the dirt for barley seeds to be planted at specific depths and intervals with an autonomous tractor;
    • Spraying a series of fungicides, herbicides, and fertilizers when and where necessary;
    • Harvesting the barley with an autonomous combine.
    Modern farming is much more complicated than just dropping some seeds on the ground and then coming back later for tasty food; the amount and composition of the pesticides and herbicides and fertilizers, and even the timing of the final harvest, depends on a data-driven understanding of the state of the crop. To make these decisions, robot scouts (including drones and ground robots) surveyed the field from time to time, sending back measurements and bringing back samples for humans to have a look at from the comfort of someplace warm and dry and clean.

    The automated harvest took place just a few days ago, after samples confirmed that the barley was dry enough. This video shows the first test cut, and the entire harvest took about six hours:

    Overall, the field produced 4.5 metric tons per hectare, which is significantly less than the average of 6.8 metric tons per hectare that you could expect from conventional (human-intensive) farming methods. The students involved in the Hands Free Hectare project also suggest that this was probably “the most expensive hectare of barley ever,” with an overall budget of £200,000 from the U.K. government. Moonshots like this are understandably expensive, though, and since a huge chunk of that money went to capital costs (like buying a tractor and a harvester), the next crop will be vastly cheaper.


    While it’s possible that at some point there might be significant labor savings by fully automating farming like this, there are lots of other, more immediate benefits. With fully autonomous farm vehicles, you can use a bunch of smaller ones much more effectively than a few larger ones, which is what the trend has been toward if you need a human sitting in the driver’s seat. This means higher precision, minimal soil compaction, cost savings, and increased flexibility to deal with mechanical breakdowns. Without the need for daylight, you could also keep a farm active 24/7 with a very small human workforce just there (or even checking in remotely) in a supervisory capacity.

    Robots are only going to get more affordable and efficient at this sort of thing, and our guess is that it won’t be long before fully autonomous farming passes conventional farming methods in both overall output and sustainability. Small mobile robots or distributed sensor systems could constantly monitor crops in a way that would be impractical for human workers, feeding data into a system that could provide (for example) plant-by-plant recommendations for chemical treatments that a location aware spraying system could then dispense. And with robots like DeepField’s weed-puncher and even Tertill ready to help out as much as they can, person-free precision farming seems like an increasingly viable way to help keep the world fed.


    The Hands Free Hectare team is already looking forward to their next winter crop, and in the meantime, they are (of course) taking all of that spring barley and turning it into a Hands Free Hectare beer.
     
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    Of that 18%, how many do you think would be skilled enough or be willing to go through the training to responsibly carry one? How many would be disqualified for some other reason? Would they be disciplined if they are caught leaving it on / in a desk?

    And as it has been pointed out, none of them would be responsible for responding to an active shooter.
     
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    Because he sed so,
    Some bloke inna Pub tole him it twas so on a midnight dreary in a beer & rum soaked haze,
    En vino veritis.
     
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    I have no problem with a guest worker program, but the needs of Americans come first. Our border needs to be secure and all entry into our country controlled. The fraud(welfare, identity, insurance, etc......) committed by the illegals needs to stop. People hiring illegals need to be heavily punished.

    What you are supporting is an attack on America, it's citizens, and it's culture. PC politicians have us bending over backwards to provide illegals an education in their language and free healthcare. I've lost 3 friends to drunk drivers. All 3 were by illegal aliens. Cops don't bother giving them tickets because they won't show up for jail. I've had enough and I don't care if they die on the other side of the border wall. We need to seal our border and let Mexico fix their own problems instead of sending their poor to America for the giant government teat. If they ask nicely, maybe we can go into Mexico and fix their problems on our terms. Our current policies are just enabling the gangs and corrupt governments of Mexico.
     
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    So drunk drivers are more likely to be illegal then any other group including born American Republicans and Trump supporters is that your claims or that all Mexicans are drunks perhaps????

    Next given that the users of illegal workers employers are in some cases the most powerful businesses in the nation such as Walmart good damn luck in punishing them with anything more then a slap on the wrist for hiring illegals.

    Love the 11 millions dollars fine for employing many hundreds of illegals for years that Walmart needed to paid in other word a fraction of the money they save by using those illegals.

    Guest workers programs are a joke in that they take far too must time and cost far too must money to get workers in that manner and that been true for generations now.
     
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    I misunderstood. I thought you were asking for a SCOTUS ruling stating marriage was a civil right.
     
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    Either you arm the teachers or you get more security guards. Something will have to be done because at some point the hysterical hyperbole from the left is going to start impacting lawmaking.
     
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    It does, however effect the effectiveness of the shooter. You don't see mass shootings at the same magnitude as the recent shooting in gun ranges, shops, shows, or police stations.
     
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    Every summer for 10 years, I spent 5 or more days at Camp Perry, during the rifle/pistol national championships, competing against and/or assisting literally tens of thousands of shooters, all of whom had 'assault weapons' and 'high-cap' magazines.

    No mass shootings. One accidental discharge, w/o injury.

    The rifles must have been defective.
     
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    Sure now, and blood wil run in the classrooms, same as happened in very state that allowed Concealed Carry, enacted open carry laws or changed to Constitutional carry... blood ran in the streets.
     
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