Are The Israelis Planning A Ground War With Iran?

Let's just face it. Bombing Iran's nuclear facilities isn't even an option for the Israelis. The IAF doesn't have bombs that are powerful enough to penetrate that far underground. And even if they did, that would only be a temporary solution. It would only take a year or two for the Iranians to be back up and running again. The only real solution is to invade Iran with ground troops and replace their current government. This could have devastating consequences. For one, Iran is backed by Russia which means that anyone who attacks Iran could end up fighting the powerful Russian military. Two, Israel is surrounded by enemies from the past and present. If they were to start a war with Iran that would involve most of their military. This would give their enemies an opportunity to attack them and perhaps even take back some of the land that they won in the past wars. Three, hundreds of thousands of terrorists will flock to Iran to help them fight off the Israelis. Most of these fighters use guerilla tactics which means that you can't simply bomb all of them by air. You have to take them out one by one. Four, the Iranian people recently voted a moderate into office which means that they're satisfied with their current government. Any attack on Iran will be seen as an INVASION by almost all of its citizens. Any invading army will face fierce resistance on every inch of Iranian soil. So what exactly is the solution to this problem? Do we simply allow Iran to get a nuclear bomb and hope that they don't hand over some of their bombs to terrorist organizations? Or do us Americans get involved at the expense of tens of thousands of American lives?

 

This post is crazy. Do you actually think the Iranian people has a choice?

 

Another thing I should mention is that the signs of war are all around us. A few days ago the U.S. Air Force announced that 1/3 of it's combat forces that have been grounded since April due to budget cuts will start flying again. The U.S. government announced a speedier withdrawal of troops from Afghanistan because of problems with Karzai. That's a little weird. Yesterday, the Russian government conducted one of their largest military exercises since the Cold War. You do the math.

 

It is indeed the Jack pot question .. Should the west attack Iran or Not ?
People intent to mistake that Iran is Israel's problem ... Well IT IS NOT !!! THEY ARE THE WHOLE WORLD'S PROBLEM.
Iran will catch America and Europe by the balls.. same as North Korea.
Life will never be safe again for billions of people, we will live under the mercy of the fanatic Ayatulas.
I say - No matter what the cost - ATTACK !! ATACK !! ATACK !! the price now will be 0.000000001% from the price we will
pay if Iran will own nuke .

 

I've heard real Iranian moderates and reformers saying just the opposite, greg. Unlike many people, those Iranians remember Rowhani's direct involvement in crushing the student protests in 1999.

 

Off you go then. We'll be right behind you.

 

Hahaha what a thread. Iran would wipe their butt with nazi israel. And Russia stands with Iran as China stands with Russia????? Against...the US, UK and France? I would pay to see that 1st rd KO. That 'war' would last about a month

 

Russia stands with Iran till the last iranian drops dead. Iran has no airforce worthy of the Name, it's AA system is loaded with antiquated cold war crap, and Israel does have the bombs. The US sold them to them in the last year of Bush's presidency. Neither Russian nor China Currently have the force projection capability to effectively intervene in Iran. Russia certainly won't go to war over Iran. And China, while it would like a war with the US isn't yet quite ready for one and they ahve the good since to know it.

But you are correct about one thing. Such a war would last about month. A week or less to destroy the Combined airforces of Iran China and Russia and about three weeks to bomb everything else into oblivion.

 

The Israelis do have bunker busting bombs. But the Iranian nuclear facilities are so far underground that the bombs wouldn't be able to completely destroy them.

I never said that. But a month sounds about right as far as overthrowing the Iranian government. The real problems come after the initial invasion is over. We could be looking at something far worse than Iraq and Afghanistan combined.

 

Are Israeli's planning a ground war with Iran? I sure hope so. Perhaps both those cutthroat Semite peoples' will annihilate each other, thus bringing a little more stabilization to the area and a greater reason to bring our boys home to where they can turn their efforts into fighting illegal immigration and the unconstitutional and anti American policies of our current Attorney General.

 

If one nuke detonates over a population, the east (russia, china, india) try to sink the island nation, between 2 seas. It will be to try and keep as much nuke waste on this side of the lake and shut down the invisible hand, with immediate response.

Keep in mind, that a nuke war, will be like a video game to subs, and the button pushers underground. "WE the people" get whooped but survive.

ie... combine the understanding with my comments on the thread about shutting down the indian reservations...

 

Iranians are largely Aryans not Semites. In fact the overwhelming majority of Muslims in the world aren't Semites.

 

I am certain they have plans. They'd be silly not to. The plans themselves might be enough to blackmail the USA into doing the invading. We begged the Israelis to stay out of Gulf War I just so we could maintain a 'coalition'.

 

Crazy? It's worse.

A little geography


Please note that Israel has no borders anywhere near Iran. They would have to go through Syria and Iraq or Syria and Turkey, or Jordan and Iraq to get there.

Another minor detail the Iranian standing army is over half a million men, with another 350,000 in reserve, with 1.5 Million Paramilitary. Israel has a standing army of 176,000 with 435,000 in reserve.

Now you may be assuming that the U.S. would use it's military to balance things out. Don't think so, I suspect that any president that decided to take us into a ground war with Iran, would be out of office very quickly. The American public has had it with wars in the Middle East, and I don't think they can be snookered again like they were for Iraq and Afghanistan.

 

I was talking about the voting. There will not be a ground war with Iran. That is ridiculous as well. Iran has not attack anyone for hundreds of years.

 

Iran has not attacked anyone for hundreds of years? They were providing extremists in Iraq with weapons to kill Americans. Isn't that considered an act of war? They're also threatening stability in the Middle East with their nuclear "bomb" program? If their intentions were peaceful they would have given in to the sanctions that the West has put against them.

 

If any of it were. We would be at war.

 

Another goofball thread. Israel does not have the logistical capability or reach for a land campaign in Iran.

 

Are you saying that us Americans aren't going to get involved in this war? The Saudis see a nuclear Iran as a threat to the world's oil supply. So does the American government. Everything we do in the Middle East is about oil so YES we will get involved.

 

Geography even logic rarely gets in the way of a good paranoid rant.

 

You can call it a paranoid rant or propaganda. Iran will NEVER get a nuclear weapon.

 

"Are The Israelis Planning A Ground War With Iran?"

Just how is the IDF going to get through Syria, Jordan, and Iraq? Paratroops? Perhaps, an Israeli invasion fleet is going to sneak (undetected) through the Suez Canal and the Gulf, land the troops, and then go back and reload to resupply.

Geography! What a concept!

BEAM ME UP, SCOTTY. THERE'S NO INTELLIGENT LIFE HERE.

 

They're going to go through Turkey. But I'm sure the Jordanians and Iraqis will allow them to go through with the influence of the United States. We're currently give these countries millions and even billions of dollars. What's in it for us?

 

Sure, but you can't expect a flaming racist to understand that!

 

Who is going through Turkey? The IDF? But the IDF is mostly reservists, when it mobilizes, the entire Israeli economy shuts down. Israel can only fight "six-day wars."

How does the IDF get to Turkey, btw? They gonna go by land through Lebanon and Syria, or by sea? How is the IDF going to keep a supply line open either way, through the link to Turkey, then through Turkey and into Iran to Terhan? Do you know how far that is? Something like 1400 miles. By the time they get that pipeline going, who have they got left to fight at the end of it?

If the war aim was a raid, to destroy stuff and leave, it might barely be thinkable (with airborne raiders, not this ridiculous land invasion). But regime change would require staying and protecting your new regime, or it won't last two minutes. And occupying Iran is the last thing Israel can do.

Nations of 7.7 million people do not occupy nations of 75 million.