Are we all clear now that Trump is a criminal?

What is abundantly clear as that if anyone who holds your opinions happens to land on the jury that it will be impossible for him to get an impartial trial

 

Oh good lord, When it comes to the legal system, all crimes are alleged. There are no iff's, and's, or butt's. Yes, it may be popular at the moment to call Biden or Trump a criminal for whatever reason, but the legal side is and always will be that all crimes are alleged and that the person is innocent until proven guilty no matter what the evidence is against them and whether it is Trump, Bryan Kohburger, or anyone else.

Again, you can think the person is guilty, but that is not a reference to a person who is a criminal, legally speaking. And my opinion is that you are a criminal because you have committed at least one offense in the jurisdiction you live in. Is that not so using your own definition Patricio?

As for a comedian, a comedian uses timing and pun to make their jokes. What you are arguing is not something that is funny, IMO. Even I laugh at Jeff Dunham's Joe (Walter) Biden, but I also know that what he is saying is funny but not exactly true, accurate, and complete. You seem to think so for whatever odd reason.

 

It's inexplicable how such a thoroughly loathsome individual could attract a cult.

 

Yes... that is very interesting from a psycho-sociological point of view/ Bit then, which cult that has existed was lead by a non loath some person?? What is really troubling is that some in that cult actually believe he is the second coming ....(this was reported on BBC which is probably one of the finest and most factual information source. This kind of fanaticism does not allow for objectivity in making sound choices. Fanaticism of any kind is dangerous.

 

He wasn’t until became a politician.

Fact is: not one single person on this forum nor one person in our rapidly declining “illegal immigrant infested country, with the current out of control inflation that has made thousands of honest taxpaying citizens homeless,” considered tRump a criminal until he ran for and was elected president”.

My question as a taxpaying citizen who owns multiple businesses, multiple properties, and other entities:

Why is S**T so much more expensive now when we clearly got rid of tRator tRump and elected a superior career politician who GAVE HIS WORD he would unite our country and make things better?


… and I just have to add this for Golem:

2: a person who has been convicted of a crime

a former president of our country has never faced this level of resistance.
Think back to all the president’s that are responsible for starting wars that have taken my fellow citizens young lives.

If former President Trump is convicted, of what??, how long will it be before your rights are taken from you?


Just blows my mind how nobody today, thinks about the consequences of tomorrow.

 

In response to the question in the topic heading: yes and no.

Given the legal system here in the United States of America, one is considered innocent until proven guilty.

We've yet to see the latest trial -- the one on retention of documents -- reach a jury verdict. The jury may find Mr. Donald Trump not guilty. In fact, we may not see a verdict at all, given the abundance of delaying tactics available to the defense.

So we must look elsewhere.

Mr. Trump's organization(s) have been found guilty of torts in the past, but that's the organizations, not the man. Mr. Trump has been restricted with regard to charities in New York State, but whether that makes him a criminal is not clear.

And so it goes: yes and no.

Patience is required here.

Regards, stay safe 'n well.

 

...or somebody like you.

 

Before he ran for President nobody knew about his crimes. Most didn't know who the hell he was. But you raise a good point: if he had stayed a lesser known figure, maybe he could have gotten away with most of his crimes.

If you mean Biden, he has certainly delivered beyond my expectations.

A former president of our country has never committed so many crimes.

Of what??? Look, with all due respect. But we do expect in this forum that posters have a minimum understanding of what is going on in the country. I would suggest you inform yourself on your own because nobody here is going to waste time catching you up on what we have learned about this criminal in the last 6+ years. We will be eager to read your informed comments after you have attained an adequate level.

 

Yep. They are like trump.

When they get informed trump didn't cooperate and return documents when asked, they run away yelling but but but Biden.

 

trump isn't in trouble for taking documents not his.
He's in trouble for not returning them when asked.
Has anyone from the RW read or seen the charges?

 

Not sure just how informed they are. Seems most of them get their info from social media ( probably Trumps "truth" social"..... and other sources that comply with their biases and inflexible position .When they bring up Biden, Hunter and Hillary........We KNOW they have no defense for Trump. So those are just a diversion. Nothing more.

 

Yes, when you fail to return a book to the library, this is called a process error.

It's pointing out rules for thee but not for me.
And I've written, fine, hang Trump. Just make sure the rest of them pay.
So far, I'm thinking the only reason Biden is in any trouble is the deep state is telling him not to run again in 2024 as Trump will likely win and govern, even if it is from a jail cell.

 

What crimes Golem?

 

You think taking sensitive national security documents and not returning them when requested is the same as forgetting to return a library book?

I think we see why RW is overly confused on this.

 

Not really a crime at this time, but sex assault and slander.
Paid a hefty fine for that.

 

Because as he noted, you cannot get a fair trial in some jurisdictions. You have to believe not only did this billionaire that bangs models chose to rape a 50 something year old woman, that she "froze" and didn't make a peep in a clothing store with attendants walking around but also, he would have had to predict she would "freeze" and not make a peep. The judge should have thrown this garbage out. Instead he convicted him, not over turning the jury verdict of an uncredible charge.

You are making the rules for thee and not for me case for me. Thanks!

 

Does **** smell?!

 

His trial was completely fair.
He was not ordered to pay for the assault, but the slandering he did about the assault.

So much for the RW claiming to be the law and order side. They support criminals.

 

Not really, tell them what they want to hear and they fall right in line.
Just like the Koresh's of the world have done.

 

What was the material lie if there was no assault? And it is ridiculous to think there was?
He did say he never even met her. That he was wrong and may not have even recalled it is hardly the material issue. Did he rape her?
It isn't a "fair" trial if the case should have been thrown out of court, but instead they convicted him which is what happened.
It aint law and order when it is chaotic lawless rioting in our legal system.

 

trump lies. What he says it always the opposite of truth and reality.
It shouldn't have been thrown out of court.
It's not chaos in our legal system. It's showing, NO ONE, is above the law.

 

It does have the hallmarks of a cult, but that is the appropriate label that must not be spoken.

 

If Trump runs this country from a jail cell........It will only demonstrate that this county has totally lost its bearings (and mind)and is off the rails.

 

It is totally shocking that the party of "law andorder" not only supports a criminal, but encourages him. They would elect him even if he was in jail.
Something very crazy about that. But then cults include fanatical beleifs and thinking. Cults usually have a "stongman" style of leadership , who care little about the members but is happy to use them to his personal advantage. Especially if they willingly follow him AND contribute MONEY to HIS cause.

 

And your chosen career politicians don’t?
Pot/kettle dairy……