Are you afraid of Allah

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  1. Trinnity

    Trinnity Banned

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    This is something I'd not heard of before and it's really interesting to me. I never even considered it....

    A Muslim lady (name will NOT be divulged) I met here said she isn't afraid of anything but Allah. So I'm wondering, if you are Muslim, are YOU afraid of Allah?

    And for everyone else, I'm wondering what you think of the idea that Muslims are, or may be, afraid of their god.

    Also, if you are some other religion, are you afraid of your god?

    Thank you in advance for your opinions~
     
  2. Validation Boy

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    All my ex-pastor used to talk about was "fearing God". It got ridiculous after awhile.
     
  3. LowKey

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    I think followers of all the Abrahamic religions are instructed to fear God. As far as I was taught in the Lutheran church it was suppose to mean that you fear God so you follow his instructions to keep him pleased with you. You fear him, and no others means that you follow his instructions as laid out in holy texts above instructions of any other authority.
     
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    I find the dichotomy that the Abrahamic God is supposed to be a God of Love and Compassion, yet still is a God that demands complete obedience and subservience lest one incur his wrath to be a dichotomy that is incompatible with the reality I have come to understand it.

    I personally do not believe in a God, I believe in a higher power, but that the higher power is shaped by those who believe in it. It can be a guiding force, no more, no less. We, as humans, retain self-determination and should take responsibility for our own actions. Having a higher power personalized in some way, as in giving it a gender and other features of a human, is, in my eyes, a thinly-veiled attempt to absolve humanity of our own faults and dismiss being inhumane to our fellow man as something okay to do because it is not our choice.
     
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    Hummmmmm, well, let's look at this in another light, IF there is an Almighty and he did give instructions, what have you to lose by following them??? Then, on the other hand what have you to gain if you do NOT follow them??? And by the same token, (the Christian God) what have you to gain by following them and what have you to lose if you don't??? NO man can absolve any person, not the Pope, not a Catholic Priest, not a pastor, period. They have a train load of faults of their own that need taken care of. But fear God??? Only if I'm out of step with what He taught. Fear Allah???
     
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    Well in Christianity the fear of the lord is the beginning of Wisdom However it doesn't end there.
     
  7. AndrogynousMale

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    Being afraid of God's wrath was what kept me believing for a long time. Getting over that fear was like a big weight being lifted off my shoulders.

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    How does fear translate into wisdom? If I'm terrified of something, I'm more likely to be a thought slave than someone who has gained wisdom or enlightenment.
     
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    Read the koran it is full of threats , unfortunately the version i have is in my native language .
    "Allah will burn your skin and it will grow again so he can re-burn it"
     
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    Not what "God-Fearing" means, DDtR.
     
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    Sounds like the christian hell, that people are sent to for eternity, if they don't follow the words of some priest here on earth.

    It's all the same, religion to relion (3 main ones anyways): Do what god wants of fear the consequences.
     
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    Really what religious types fear, is their own death and the eternity of it. Religion helps them with this incredible reality, that dead is dead, for ever and ever. It provides hope, that if they're good, according their their own given (and in general it was given to them, by their parents) religion, that dead does not equal dead. That somehow their soul will live on in heaven, or paradise. This numbs the anguish of having to accept the inevitable.

    So the fear of god, helps the mentally weak. Nothing more.
     
  12. Lien

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    Nice topic .

    Being afraid of Allah means "doing the things he wants us to do" . A friend of the above posts said Quran is full of threat . This is something to do with your point of view it , it just warns you . If the aim were to threaten why it always says Allah forgives those who repent , this is a nice way out for people who would be abusive . He tells us that he is so forgiving , because the aim is not force you to do something with the threat .

    What Allah want us to do ?
    -Do not make mischief on the earth
    -Do not lie , be honest
    -Help people
    -Be diligent
    -Be patient
    -Be clear
    -Be fair
    -Be tolerant

    etc ........

    A malicious person will continue to remain in the same manner , you cant make something imposed on people , they will always remain as they wish . Also its written in a verse ( Idont remember the number) .
    People usually think "this book threatens me and no one can threaten me" , so much arrogance , so much smugness .
     
  13. AndrogynousMale

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    Actually, there's a lot of hateful verses in the Koran. Here's just a few:

    Allah is an enemy to unbelievers. - Sura 2:98

    Make war on them until idolatry is no more and Allah's religion reigns supreme - 8:39

    When the sacred months are over, slay the idolaters wherever you find them. Arrest them, besiege them, and lie in ambush everywhere for them. - 9:5
     
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    I follow no God, yet act according to the rules laid out in the Bible(s) .....the big ones anyway. Not because they are written in the book, but because I am a good person who actually cares about others. I do not fear some undefined spirit entity, as I do not think it is reality...basically, I do not nead fear to do the right thing, nor do I require a handler to be good.
     
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    If you take them out of context, sure...

    For example... Verse 2:98 in entirety...

     
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    could you define mischief for us? not all ideas translate well and what i (and most of us here) think of as mischief is nothing more than a brand of humor. one that i like to think of as one of my God given talents. :sun:
     
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    I'm told that Allah will hang me by my hair in eternal fire because
    i go about with my hair uncovered.
     
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    I was born and raised a RC and I've practice most of my life. Yet i never heard a priest or vicare tell me to fear God. I was told that i would be judged upon my death according to what i did, but never to fear him during my lifetime. Maybe because the focus is on Christ message and deed instead of the old testament, which is mainly include in the bible as reference material so we know how it was before Christianity.

    So no I don't fear God nor his judgement, because I've done my best and will continue until I die.
     
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    Who would require a handler?? But in reality, you are NOT following the things laid down in the Bible. You are trying to do right by your own rightness (righteousness) and IF you know the Bible you know what that boils down to.
     
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    Having attended Catholic school ( when it was seriously Catholic), studied several aspects on Christiondom afterward, readin what we her int he west consider the Qu'ran (the interpretation is lacking), dealing with a Jehovah witness bother, and looking into scientology, Mormonism, Seikism, ....etc....and finally deciding Buddhism made the most sense because I am not required to tell everyone else they are wrong.....I am quite comfortable with who I am.

    My handler is me....my God is something I will never know...and my persona is defined by my action, not a book.
     
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    If Allah and the Jewish god and the Christian god are the same god, then of course one would expect to hear the same rhetoric about all.

    “The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge” (Proverbs 1:7).

    "And I say unto you my friends, Be not afraid of them that kill the body, and after that have no more that they can do. But I will forewarn you whom ye shall fear: Fear him, which after he hath killed hath power to cast into hell; yea, I say unto you, Fear him."(Luke 12:4-5).

    Also, it would be appreciated if any muslim could tell me why muslims call God "Allah". Does the word have a meaning in Arabic?
     
  23. AboveAlpha

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    All three religions have the same text as one another specific to what Christians read as the Old Testament.

    After that Christians have the teachings of Jesus...Muslims have the teachings of Muhammad...and Jews are still waiting for the Messiah.

    AboveAlpha
     
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    I should think Christians would not fear God, but rather have faith in His Mercy. Of course if you're not a Christian.... :pray:
     
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    Real mischief is not humor, it is the intent to hurt others without cause. For instance, today someone told me about a special envelope being delivered to the wrong person, and how they deliberately kept it from them. This was mischief. :rant:
     

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