Are you bothered about your carbon footprint

Whenever I search Google, I find nothing but screaming about animals with methane, and then their effect on the land due to livestock agriculture. But trying to get the same detail and data on vegetable and fruit agriculture, it's a different kettle of fish. What are they hiding !!

I've always been against New Zealand lamb, plenty of fields in the UK to raise stock.

I propose a tax on food imports, and tax incentives for homegrown produce, particularly as the climate warms, we can grow more variety in the UK.

Funny how produce growers pump co2 into greenhouses to approx 1,100ppm for growth and yield, yet there's a sensitive group at there crying over 449ppm.

 

@LiveUninhibited

What is the co2 impact of deforestation to create more farming land for fruit and veg produce, and transporting said produce around the planet?

 

It is way more basic than that. Animals that we eat, also eat food. Producing that food, industrially requires land and resources. Some of the energy is lost in growing the animal compared to just eating what you could have grown on the land used to feed the animal.

 

But I'm interested in the issue behind fruit and veg. What co2 impact does this type of agriculture do and what pollution is created by transporting said produce?

For example, bananas -

https://www.bananalink.org.uk/all-about-bananas/

Bananas constitute a significant portion of the export revenues for many Latin American and Caribbean countries. For example, banana exports account for a quarter of Ecuador’s total non-petroleum exports, and Ecuador accounts for around 30% of world banana market supply.

And when you continue to read further down, the bad working conditions. So the question is, if you take the same proportion of local meat raised and eaten in the UK compared to bananas transported in, what is the co2 footprint comparison. Then obviously you can apply this to avocados, coconuts etc..

So everyone keeps defaulting back to farting cows, the info on Google does the same. It's like a strange farting cow fetish. What damage is fruit and veg causing? When I shop in UK supermarkets, very little is grown here. Strawberries from Fife, Scotland taste the best, then those from Kent, England. Most come from Spain, but it's just like eating red balls of water with no taste. So strawberries from Spain to the UK are causing climate change. Do you suggest in banning Spanish strawberries, or just farting cows?

 

I never said anything about farting cows, you did. Though maybe they're higher than pork and chicken because of farting, I don't know. Your point that locally grown food is better for the carbon footprint is fine. But it does not negate my point that meat production on a large scale requires more resources than a similar amount of plant-based food. These are two separate issues, basically. I mean sure, if you can grow chickens off the bugs in your yard, then that would do better than buying barley from a long ways off, but that's more a point for using a local supply and it's not really scalable for the level of meat consumption affluent people want. More people want to eat chickens than raise them, but if somebody wants to raise them instead of buy them, especially if a proportion of their food comes from dual-use land like bugs in your yard, that's certainly better for the carbon footprint.