Artemis Moon Mission will Carry Mannequins to Test Radiation Effects

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  1. JCS

    JCS Well-Known Member Donor

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    Though no human will fly on Artemis 1, three mannequins will travel to deep space. Their mission: to test whether the conditions inside the Orion spacecraft are safe for future astronaut occupants. At the head of the capsule will be Commander Moonikin Campos, a test dummy sporting the Orion Crew Survival System spacesuit, per Insider’s Paola Rosa-Aquino. Sensors will measure the acceleration, vibration and radiation that Moonikin is exposed to, giving NASA data about how its human crew members might fare.

    The other two mannequins, named Zohar and Helga, will measure how space radiation affects a woman’s body. The dummies are made with slices of plastic that simulate soft tissue, bones and lungs. Each will have 5,600 sensors that will record information on radiation’s effect on the lungs, stomach, uterus and bone marrow. Zohar will wear a protective vest, but Helga will not.

    As NASA prepares to send the first woman to the moon, this research is crucial. “Women in general have a higher risk of developing cancer since they have more radiation-sensitive organs such as breast tissue and ovaries," Ramona Gaza, science team lead at NASA's Johnson Space Center, said in a news briefing.

    https://www.smithsonianmag.com/scie...-know-about-nasas-artemis-i-launch-180980654/

    Hmm...but why the need to test for radiation effects on the body when they already should've had that data from 14+ missions back in the 1960's & '70's (not to mention all the unmanned probes they launched beforehand)? Did they forget how to shield astronauts from the radiation?
     
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    If you can't think of a number of perfectly sensible reasons to do this that don't involve some insane conspiracy them maybe mummy and daddy should limit your interenet time so you can read more & develop better logic skills. Maybe study how science worls during that down time too.

    That you or anyone else would even consider this a line of discussion is proof of the absolute intellectual paucity of the arguments involved.
     
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    They didn't have anything like as advanced technology nor the space/weight capacity to carry too much on those missions and we didn't know as much about radiation back then. While simple radiation shielding was used in all of those missions (to protect both astronauts and equipment), there is clearly much more that could be done in all sorts of different ways to help protect people specifically, and getting a better understanding of how the different types of radiation impacts different people will help with developing those new measures for future manned missions.

    Just because we've done something before doesn't mean we can't do it better (or more safely) in the future. I mean, we already know about the risks of car crashes, and have all sorts of things in place to help prevent collisions and protect people when they do happen, but we still do lots of testing and development on vehicle safety to develop new and better systems.
     
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    Seems exactly what is required.



    They have that data. They need to test for the following totally obvious reasons:

    • Number 1, the missions are going to be significantly longer - up to 4 times longer than Apollo 17.
    • The craft has a completely different design.
    • Safety standards are much tighter with modern controls.
    • With longer times comes the possibility of solar events occurring.
    • The inclination of the transfer orbit will not be the same.
    • It's a normal thing to ensure the safety of passengers on any craft!

    No. It is a whole different setup. We know how to fly airplanes, should we not bother testing new ones!?
     
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    See batshit post batshit. An 8 year old article that is written by that foolish Mary Bennett who wondered why the Apollo 13 landing site was in broad daylight, information she obtained from the Apollo 13 movie!

    Apollo solved the problem with exposure by setting a simple trajectory to skirt the weaker areas. Nowhere do the Aulis clowns offer any substantial data or computations. In fact it can be summed up as ignorant people trying to get paying customers by supplying them with batshit that they do not understand.
     
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    Look it up and quit trolling, it is both tedious and pathetic.
     
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    I thought you would know.
     
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    I do. But that wasn't why you trolled that totally irrelevant post.
     
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    It is not irrelevant. We are talking about the Artemis Moon Mission.
     
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    Bullshit, you did the pathetic rolling eyes and asked about Apollo! Totally irrelevant.
     
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    I don't think you want to talk about this since it is another incongruency in the Apollo story.
     
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    There are no incongruencies in the Apollo historical record. It is perfectly normal for the first launch of any rocket to have problems. See if you can muster your pathetic research skills and discover what happened prior to the first launch of a Saturn V.

    You can't even keep your story straight for 2 posts.
     
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    How many Saturn V test flights were there?
     
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    Off topic, go and use your pathetic research skills. Start with Apollo 4.
     
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    There are no such incongruencies
     

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