As to the "majority of climate scientists"

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  1. Etbauer

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    It's like vaccine deniers. It would be funny if they didn't vote or have kids.
     
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    You're right, I have produced no evidence, because I am not trained well enough to produce evidence, and it is not my job. However, everyone who is agrees with me. More accurately, I just agree with the people who know what they are doing. And there is a veritable mountain of evidence that they have produced. All claims of their corruption don't meet the standards that flat earthers have met in claiming corruption and dishonesty in the "round earth" community. Face it, your position is even weaker than flat earthers. Mine has science behind it.
     
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    There is no rampant fraud or dishonesty going on. Remember, real science happens in an open forum. All scientific works are made available to the public including you. Even something as trivial as an honest math mistake is discovered within mere hours. I don't know of even a single instance of reported claim of fraud in the climate sciences that turned out to be substantiated. In fact, when the dust finally settles on the fake news reports we sometimes find that it was actually the accusers that were the ones committing the fraud like was the case with Bates and Karl.
     
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    'Honest math mistake', yeah right, you hucksters have all your excuses lined up. If its not that, its an 'adjustment' like the Obama admin did with old data that didn't agree with their politics. We've been watching this fraud unfold for DECADES, with absolutely none of the predictions coming true. How long are we supposed to wait? Judging by the accuracy I've seen the next case of global warming is likely to follow the next ice age, not precede it...
     
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    My position is based on reality, yours is merely baseless speculation that has yet to provide an instance of evidence that actually backs your claims.
     
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    Yeah, what's your evidence?
     
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    Where's the warming? The evidence is that there is no substantial warming trend, nor has there been since this farce was cooked up. Even if there was, and there isn't, what does man have to do with it? You cannot provide no proof of that, because none exists, because that would require a model that takes all factors into account, and that you hucksters won't do...
     
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    Almost all published science disagrees with you. While we're at it, where is the Earth's curvature? Again, you are just a flat earther. You cannot distinguish how your arguments are different than theirs.
     
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    Dispondent Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No published science provides any evidence of actual warming, only doom and gloom predictions, most of that based upon faulty logic and political agendas...
     
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    So, obviously that's just not true. And explain exactly how you think that published science is based on faulty logic. I'm guessing you only listen to OPINIONS of untrained pundits. You have no scientific evidence
     
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    Show me the warming, go on, show me how it matches the multitude of predictions. You can't, because it simply isn't there. That is what comes of creating a farce for political purposes and selling it to rubes that can't think for themselves...
     
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    https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1029/2001GL013833
    As one of many many examples. Again that's from science, not uneducated political pundit opinions. This is reality not opinion.
     
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    No thanks, that's just more speculation posted as proof. We haven't had satellites for over 100 years, which means they use incomparable data to determine their results. That's shoddy at best, pure fraud at worst. That's pretty much the whole global warming hoax, predictions based on incomparable data with no relevance to reality or history, swallowed by rubes looking for a falling sky. That is not science, that is fraud...
     
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    And how is this different from flat earth arguments exactly? "All proof and evidence is just wrong because I say it is, and it's just more evidence of conspiracy because reasons"
     
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    You are the only person talking about flat Earth, you can continue to have that conversation with your self, I don't care. It has nothing to do with the incomparable data sets used to determine the 'proof' you provided. What a joke...
     
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    The point is that I can explain how my method for determining reality differs from flat earthers or any other insane outlandish nonsensical theorists. You cannot because they are the same.
     
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    Comparing data derived from primitive tools and that derived from the most modern tools is not going to produce accurate results, its a farce, just like the rest of the global warming nonsense. That is what you folks are doing, and only a complete moron would accept that as 'science'...
     
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    Lol you have no idea what you're even talking about. And that's the point. You just believe pundits.
     
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    Hardly. The information you posted in the link took data collected over periods of time using different methods and equipment and weighed them the same. Its not, it is intellectually dishonest, just like the whole global warming scam. A true believer like you doesn't care, you simply suck down the Koolaid and yell DENIER at anyone who disagrees with you, like a spoiled little child...
     
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    Again, they are smarter than you. You haven't uncovered a secret. That's the fantasy of flat earthers anti vaxxers 9/11 truthers etc. The fantasy that average people with no training somehow can outsmart actual smart professionals. It's like the fat guy in a couch thinking they could have done better than tom brady
     
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    Where does consensus fit into the scientific method?
     
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    So you say, but then again, you bought into their hoax, so I guess judging their intelligence by your opinion would be fruitless. It isn't about 'outsmarting' anyone, its about intellectual honesty and integrity, which the climate cultists have proven time and again, they possess none. There exist, no reliable trends, no actual comparable data that even suggest such, and yet nobody questions it? I get it, you sold your soul to the hoax, and there is no going back...
     
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    Right, exactly like flat earthers every step of the way. "Every piece of proof or undeniable evidence is just more proof that is a conspiracy" TryT to say all evidence is wrong so you can base all of your beliefs not in evidence but emotion.
     
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    In case I wasn't clear, you do this because your beliefs can't stand up to evidence or reality.
     
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    Yes. Believe it or not people make mistakes. Even experts make mistakes.

    There is no conspiracy to fraudulent adjust data. How about this...give me one example that you feel definitively shows that a scientist fraudulently altered climate data.
     

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