Stop the back and forth flaming please. This is the thread warning. All rule violations from hereon out will result in thread bans. I couldn't agree with him more. http://tv.yahoo.com/blogs/tv-news/-...e---ashamed--to-be-an-american-011408813.html The not-guilty verdict for George Zimmerman in the death of Florida teen Trayvon Martin has outraged many people across the country, including "The Wire" creator David Simon. In an emotional, fiery post on his blog, The Audacity of Despair, Simon denounced the verdict, saying he was "ashamed to call himself an American."
Dont want to get shot, dont put your hands on someone. I know selfdefense against a black person is racist and all, but you race baiters are milking this for all its worth.
Blow things out of proportion much? I don't think you should live in shame. Everyone who feels shame for living in a country where we couldn't just lynch that guy outright should go move somewhere where they can be proud. Europe maybe?
I'll be interested to see if you two have any response to this thread. http://www.politicalforum.com/curre...g-your-ground-while-black.html#post1062879367
Like the hundreds of blacks that use stand your ground in Florida? **Staff Edit ~ Remove reply to deleted post**
I'll respond. Alexander was under no imminent threat of violence, i.e. she wasn't on her back getting walloped MMA style. Alexander pointed the gun at Gray and his children, at which point Gray put his hands up. Alexander still pulled the trigger but missed Gray. Gray then took his kids and exited the house and immediately called 911. Alexander stayed in the house and never called 911. Certainly Gray had abused Alexander before, but there was no evidence she was acting in self defense at the time that trigger was pulled. Unlike the Zimmerman case.
I'm ashamed that David Simon is an American, also. Is he still here? WHY? No one is stopping the arrogant idiot from leaving, are they?
Responded, clearly you weren't aware of this: (Lefty newspaper, it is OK you can read it) The face of stand your ground, (you will notice a decent mix of races) http://www.tampabay.com/stand-your-ground-law/fatal-cases - - - Updated - - - 20 years is still a bit excessive. Problem with a mandatory minimum with gun laws. In any event, it has nothing to do with stand your ground anyway, that was a case of assault with a weapon. That law doesnt apply.
Dear foreigner, Maybe you should worry about the crappy countries you associate with and stay out of the business of ours? We are trying to run the world here, don't have much time for people who ride our coat tails. Thanks!
It is very difficult for a human being to believe in, let alone communicate with some of the extremist traitors to the human race who make America contemptible by the racist loathsomeness on PF. Your Right has grown more and more despicable, and this latest monstrous travesty of law renders them so far beneath contempt that no decent person would wipe dog(*)(*)(*)(*) off his boots on them. It is difficult to see how any country that allows such scumbags public ranting-space can seriously hope to survive
I've been here coming up on 500 posts and have come to the conclusion that this form is a haven for white supremacists. We're not all like that. In fact, the last election showed we have them down to a 47% minority and that is dropping on a daily basis. We've got them on the run, and in the long term we shall prevail.
No, it's just your Liberal insanity preventing you from seeing the reality of your own deep Liberal prejudices against guns, personal responsibility, and handling problems yourself. That, and you always need there to be a victim. The real irony here is Libs are by far the most racist. You had to turn this into an issue about race, and then see "racism" around every corner when rational people refuse to let an innocent scapegoat (Zimmerman) be handed over so you can have him lynched. Sorry, this wasn't about race, as much as you may want it to be.
Martin had no need to stand his ground and in fact had gone back to the apartment where he was staying. Zimmerman never threatened him with imminent serious bodily harm as he did to Zimmerman. Fail. Why do you believe young black racist males should be able to commit hate crimes on whites?
Big fat racist slobs who chase them with guns to murder them? Oh how shocking! Jesus, the American extremists truly are DISGUSTING!
Many Liberals wouldn't mind seeing this. I am aware of a few of them on this forum who would probably be celebrating. He had the gun to protect himself. And good thing he had it too, since it turned out Trayvon was a rabid animal. Zimmerman never planned on using his gun, or laying a finger on the individual under surveillance for that matter. But Trayvon convinced him otherwise while he was pounding his head into the concrete. If not for that gun, Zimmerman could have suffered permanent brain damage or possibly worse.
Why do you believe any one in America cares what you think of us when you are so ignorant of us? And especially when you have such a lack of intelligent response. And we care what you see why? See we don't support young racist black males attacking others in this county, if you choose to keep it over there.
No concerned citizens being attacked by these young black racist homophobic males. Why do you support them? Martin and his girlfriend thought Zimmerman was gay, so why do you support physical attacks on people just because they are gay? - - - Updated - - - So why are you voicing support for the ones that aren't like Trayvon Martin who attacked and beat a white guy he thought was gay? That is a hate crime over here.
Protect himself my American elbow! He had it to kill people with, as you know, like every other bullying racist slob strutting around America like Goering! Be ashamed!
Taxcutter says: Race and guns are pornographic and lewd? David Simon, you are one sick puppy. Is David Simon telling us that if you are black you have right to pound Hispanic guys heads on the pavement? Is he telling us we should not defend ourselves by whatever means are necessary when physically attacked? the lewd, pornographic embrace of two great American pathologies: Race and guns Tonight, anyone who truly understands what justice is and what it requires of a society is ashamed to call himself an American." Taxcutter says: No theyre not. David Simon, as previously mentioned is a sick puppy who indulges in gratuitous hyperbole. selfdefense against a black person is racist and all Taxcutter says: That seems to be what David Simon and others are saying. That notion is entirely racist. this form is a haven for white supremacists. Taxcutter says: Horse malarkey! Just the opposite. We espouse a completely color blind standard of justice, unlike Mr. Simon. Self-defense is self-defense regardless of the paint job. your Liberal insanity preventing you from seeing the reality of your own deep Liberal prejudices against guns, personal responsibility, and handling problems yourself. Libs are by far the most racist. Taxcutter says: Hear! Hear! he would rather allow young black racist males attack whites with impunity? Taxcutter says: Thats what he appears to be saying. And Hispanics and Asians, etc How is that not arrant racism? Big fat racist slobs who chase them with guns to murder them? Taxcutter says: Youre not talking about the Martin-Zimmermann case. Try to stay on-topic.