At last an 8 year long nightmare comes to an end

Obama leaves with a great approval rating while Trump comes to power with a 40% approval rate. The country is now more divided thsn ever.

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And remember the military caused the Iraq fiasco, not Bush.

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And remember the military caused the Iraq fiasco, not Bush.

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Fortunately for America Trump know more than the generals he has appointed. Still waiting for his secret plan.

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Fortunately for America Trump know more than the generals he has appointed. Still waiting for his secret plan.

 

Well I appreciate your response to my detailed and fact-based breakdown of your post with this completely meaningless opinion.

Can you please try harder next time? You are hurting your cause considerably by not even trying to make an effort to back up anything you say. I came here to debate topics, not to just hear a whole bunch of opinions thrown around without any real discussion going on. If you want me to start believing in you, or Trump, or the Republican party, or anything other than the liberal principles I subscribe to, then you're going to have to start doing some work.

 

When you rejoin reality you will realize most of what you say is just not correct

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Your post is dishonest

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Your post is dishonest

 

I agree, by today's standards, NIxon would be considered a democrat.

 

Your the one being dishonest

Obama went around and threatened to sue banks that would give minorities those bad loans

Then he sued the banks for giving the bad loans and blamed it on Bush

So Obama shot Bin Laden and my post is dishonest

 

Trying to blame Obama for the bad bank loans to Lunardi's is dishonest. The bad Bank thing had collapsed before Obama even got into office

 

, never seen collectivist drones care about debt before. Trumps magic must be getting to you people. GO TRUMP!!! We are making progress!!!

 

It was Obama that divided us not Trump. Now you know how we felt when Obama won

No that was the fault of Bush

He didnt like Obamas generals he seems to love his and I agree

 

No more socialism, no more apologizing for America, no more bowing to foreigners ... wow.

 

Obama wasn't a failed President, but he certainly never came close to expectations. Let's hope Trump doesn't live up to expectations either because living in a post apocalyptic world might seem really fun in the Mad Max movies, but I am guessing it gets old pretty quick.

 

The effectiveness of the ACA is questionable at best (http://www.forbes.com/sites/theapot...e-obamacare-is-not-saving-lives/#4d45dd382511), it's longevity is impossible as most of the providers have pulled out of the ACA, leaving only one option in some states. Sure, there are a lot of people who have Obamacare, but they can't afford to use it. The only people who benefit from the ACA are those who are paying nothing or next to nothing to reap the benefits. The method in which the ACA was passed was pure King Obama and his cronies shoving it down our collective throats.

The ACA is a complete failure collapsing under it's own weight. Something which, in my opinion, it was designed to do as the Democrats long range plan was to have a sole source medical program.

The issue with the military isn't it's size, but it's ability to carry out it's mission (i.e readiness), and combat capability. http://www.defensenews.com/story/defense/2016/03/16/army-marines-readiness-war-congress/81876210/ The Obama administration was more concerned with lowering the standards so that anyone could join the military. That's not what the military is about. Lowering the bar gets people killed. The military is a war-fighting organization, not a social experiment.

What is left to be discovered in space? That's the most ludicrous thing I've read in a long time. The very future of the human race depends on space exploration. The list of things that have come from NASA research that affect our daily lives is long. Short term goals like mining Helium 3 from the moon could help solve the earth's energy problems.

 

No we weren't the recession was over half way through and would end by June and the job loss rate bottomed out in January. Now certainly the Democrats who took control of the Congress in 2007 could have done more to mitigate the damage and get us into a full blown recovery but they didn't.

 

Some stuff on there that doesn't even make sense

 

A single payer health care system would, in my mind, be a dream come true. Health care coverage for everyone while reducing the costs of health care. The only argument I ever hear against it is "well the government would be in charge of it and I don't trust the government." Then I guess it's a good thing that we live in a democracy where you can elect people you DO trust.

This is a direct quote from whitehouse.gov:

"Next, we will rebuild the American military. Our Navy has shrunk from more than 500 ships in 1991 to 275 in 2016. Our Air Force is roughly one third smaller than in 1991. President Trump is committed to reversing this trend, because he knows that our military dominance must be unquestioned."

Pretty clear indication that Trump intends to increase the size of the military and says nothing about its readiness, just its general size. Is that worthwhile?

Alright then, I concede the point. As an engineer, I'm not going to fervently argue against our exploration into space, but I have very little tolerance for conservatives who use space as their opportunity to sound like such forward-thinking visionaries when the potential gain is actually much smaller than they'll admit, all the while abandoning such forward-thinking in much more useful and relevant causes like green / alternative energy. Thankfully you're actually thinking about this sort of thing, but you're a rare breed for doing so. Helium-3 could be a game changer in the energy industry, but good luck convincing anyone in the Republican party to invest in any form of energy besides whatever we can drill out of our lands.

 

Bush didn't double the debt why the myths.

 

Too long because of the Democrat policies, the Democrats who wanted no help from the Republicans.

Historically the deeper the recession to longer and stronger the recovery. The Democrats blew it.

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The auto industry didn't need a bail out and government take over. GM needed help but certainly not what Obama did with them costing taxpayers billions of dollars and presenting unfair competition to other manufacturers and the workers in those plants.

 

52 months of full employment, solid GDP growth, rising incomes, soaring tax revenues ending with a a paltry $161B deficit was a nightmare?

And the Democrats including one Senator Obama took control of the Congress, and the budget, and majority control of the government in 2007 not 2009.

Far worse than when the Democrats took control in 2007 and way past the timeframe when we should have been in a vibrant strongly growing economy with everyone back to work. After their stimulus failed they left us wallowing in the mud because they refused to admit it and take measures that WOULD have gotten us back on strong footing years ago.

Why should we thank him for the worse recovery in modern history? And he guided nothing, the Congressional Democrats put together the stimulus not him and after it failed what did he do? He thought about it.

What did he do? GM would have been split up and bought out with costing the taxpayers billions of losses and without the unfair competition and advantage he gave to northern auto workers over Southern auto workers.

If we had followed previous Republican policies we would long ago have entered a FULL recovery and would have balanced budgets instead of the HUGE deficits and debt the Democrats gave us.

The CIA and Navy seals got OBL and those 2/3's of ISIS would never existed had it not been for Obama's policies.

 

And there are lots of people who don't have it and lots of people who do but can no longer afford to use it. The Obama administration said it would insure between 40-45 million, they barely got half that number at the huge cost and huge upheaval of our INSURANCE market. Most those 20 million had access to health care.

There's a to be discovered but it can be done with satellites far cheaper. There is no reason to go to Mars and as you noted any possible habitable planet that we know of is way too far off with current modes of travel. Perhaps one day physist might discover the Einstein was wrong and can exceed the speed of light but we don't need man space flight right now for that.

Anyone as in singular, the problem is anyoneS especially considering the build ups going on around the world. We need to rebuild and rearm and restock that is how you PREVENT war.

The older workers are the only group that has increased it's LFPR we desperately need more jobs and more people working in the younger and middle age groups, THAT alone would go a long way if fixing the federal deficit and debt problems and what we face with Social Security and Medicare.

We are divided because we had a President who divided the nation with his racially charged speech, his political finger pointing to pass blame for his own failures and the side on the left that cannot accept the outcome on an election.

What will be missed about him?