ATF report

Contrary to what the Democrat overlords keep telling everyone, gun retailers are not the boogeyman problem they are made out to be. But it's not surprising that Democrats keep lying to everyone about the issue.

https://www.nssf.org/articles/atf-firearm-trafficking-report-licensed-retailers-arent-the-problem/


APRIL 9, 2024

ATF FIREARM TRAFFICKING REPORT: LICENSED RETAILERS AREN’T THE PROBLEM
By Larry Keane

The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) released a report that‘s been years in the making and the stark reality is that the Biden administration’s admonishments of the firearm industry are entirely off target.

Much more at the link....

 

I would have never assumed licensed gun dealers were a major factor in illegal firearm trafficking. I would have assumed the major culprits would be illegal straw purchases, private sales and stolen firearms. Is there really someone who specifically stated "licensed gun dealers are the biggest culprits of illegal firearm trafficking"?

 

I don’t think very many people believe it is the licensed stores that sell guns are the issue.

The issue is stolen weapons and weapons from second party sales with no background check.

Licensed retailers follow the law or risk losing their license

 

If licensed retailers aren't the problem, then logically gun manufacturers wouldn't be a problem, so why do they get sued?

 

The OP seems to indicate there are those who DO believe licensed gun dealers are the problem when it comes to illegal trafficking of firearms. Maybe he can provide some info on that claim.

 

Who are these imaginary overlords?

The nation’s gun regulator began naming publicly for the first time firearm dealers it says have flouted federal laws and will lose their license. The move is part of President Joe Biden's gun violence agenda, in which he has called such dealers "rogue."

Data from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives now posted online identifies 93 federal firearm licensees that ATF inspections found have willfully violated portions of the Gun Control Act.

The crackdown on gun dealers has been decried by Republicans in both the House and Senate as a "radical anti-Constitutional agenda." It also comes days after the mass shooting Monday at a Christian school in Nashville, Tennessee.

In a statement, ATF Director Steven Dettelbach said the agency is just doing its job.

“Congress, by law, gives ATF the responsibility to inspect firearms licensees. The information released today will assist the public in understanding how ATF handles inspections where significant violations are uncovered on the part of firearms licensees,” wrote Dettelbach, who became the agency's first confirmed director in seven years last July.
https://news.yahoo.com/rogue-gun-dealers-revealed-know-162914918.html

 

The ATF released Volume Three of the National Firearms Commerce and Trafficking Assessment. The report is the first the ATF has published since 2000 and focused specifically on 9,700 ATF firearm trafficking investigations between 2017 and 2021. The report clearly demonstrates that for all the political bluster by the Biden administration about “rogue dealers” and the “zero-tolerance” policy by the ATF, the firearm industry isn’t the problem.

. To put that into more specific perspective, there were 134,516 federal firearms licensees (FFLs) at the end of 2021.

That equates to just 0.1 percent of all FFLs being implicated in allegedly illegal firearm trafficking before President Joe Biden instituted his whole-of-government crackdown on the firearm industry.

 

I have not heard the licensed dealers are the problem. I have heard some argue the private sellers are the bigger issue, since they are not required to run background checks.

 

The crackdown on gun dealers has been decried by Republicans in both the House and Senate as a "radical anti-Constitutional agenda."

Making sure dealers of lethal weapons comply with the law is neither radical or anti-constitutional.

 

Did you read the report of what a miniscule problem they actually represent?

It comes directly from ATF data and it is not any opinion or a blog

 

They are revoking dealers licenses for simple clerical errors.

https://rollcall.com/2021/06/23/biden-zero-tolerance-policy-to-target-rogue-gun-dealers/

And here he is referring to gun manufacturers as the enemy.

https://www.nssf.org/articles/president-bidens-war-on-firearm-industry-reaches-new-peak/He labeled firearm manufacturers “the enemy” at the outset of his campaign for The White House. That’s a purposeful choice of words. He didn’t say the firearm industry “opposed” his policies, nor did he say it was an “adversary.” He chose to call the firearm industry “the enemy,” labeling it as an existential threat to the America he wanted to fashion during his administration.

 

When it comes to the possibility of lethal weapons getting in to the wrong hands what's the problem with trying to prevent it from ever happening? Striving for perfection in this instance is a good thing, don't make it a bad thing.

 

Biden is wrong to labeled firearm manufacturers “the enemy” but I don't see the part where it was stated that licensed gun dealers are the problem when it comes to illegal trafficking of firearms.

 

Does it sound like "clerical errors"? If you are guilty of the below, then you pretty much deserve to lose your license. I think any president would agree with that.

"revoke the federal licenses of firearms dealers who willfully violate gun laws, senior administration officials said. That includes actions such as selling a gun to someone who is prohibited from possessing one, failing to do a background check on gun purchasers or falsifying records."

I scanned your link for the word "enemy" and did not find it, but if you say he said it, then so be it.

 

You should actually read the original link and post number one where it details about how people's license are being revoked for simple clerical errors... Or don't.... You have your mind made up so you're not interested in hearing anything that goes contrary to it.

 

Rogue dealers means those dealers only
That doesn’t mean all dealers are “rogue”

This is jump even for you.

 

I imagine gun retailers are just like any other group of people: most follow the rules, some do not. I have heard that most law abiding gun owners feel that before new laws are passed we need to enforce the ones we have. I don't see why a majority of law abiding gun owners would be opposed to going after the gun dealers that that do not follow the law.

 

I'm not hip on your jive lingo yo.

Are you here to discuss the thread or me? Can't resist trying to get your little personal dig in there can you?

 

I read it and quoted directly from your link.

"revoke the federal licenses of firearms dealers who willfully violate gun laws, senior administration officials said. That includes actions such as selling a gun to someone who is prohibited from possessing one, failing to do a background check on gun purchasers or falsifying records."

Clerical errors can happen and should be easy to sort out

Yes, I would think so.

 

“Last thing, we should have smart guns. No gun should be able to be sold unless your biometric measure can pull that trigger. It’s within our right to do that, we can do that, our enemy is the gun manufacturers, not the NRA,”

—-Joe Biden

Looks like manufacturers not dealers in this case. Might be another quote I don’t know of.

 

I am discussing the thread and the OP

You didn’t read it or purposely misinterpreted it — no where does it say lawful gun dealers are an issue.

If a dealer sells a weapon to someone who isn’t authorized to obtain one should there be penalties against them?

As to the clerical mistakes which you noted, if I make a mistake on some forms there are major penalties including temporary suspension of my license. If I miss a CE requirement then my license can be suspended with major costs to have it reactivated.

 

That's what happens when you scan things and don't really actually read.... It's right there in my original link. Just as plain as day.

President Biden infamously maligned the firearm industry when he said from the Democratic debate stage in 2019, “Our enemy is the gun manufacturers, not the NRA, the gun manufacturers.”

 

But isn’t the OP and the ATF report about licensed gun retailers and not the gun manufacturers?

 

Yea, that's what I though too, but maybe the discussion "evolved" into something Biden said on the campaign trail.

 

Uhh they make the guns.