Attack on Alt-Right Leader Has Internet Asking: Is It O.K. to Punch a Nazi?

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  1. Brewskier

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    Communists are able to walk around on every college campus in America, and one of them just ran for President and almost became the Democratic nominee. They were responsible for more death than anyone associated with Spencer's ideology. I don't see you advocating violence against them. I wonder why?
     
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    Because communism isn't the subject for one, and you trying to deflect that back on me doesn't change my opinion nor anything else.
     
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    I don't have to respect them or their ideas to respect freedom of thought and freedom of speech.
     
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    As long as they understand there's no freedom from consequence or from criticism. For every obvious reasons.
     
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    No one is saying they should be free from criticism. As far as consequences go, they are not free of legal consequences, such as losing friends. Violence against speech is an attack on free speech.
     
  6. Brewskier

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    It highlights a double standard, which is helpful context to anyone reading your posts.

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    They should be able to speak their mind without violent retribution, regardless of what people like you think.
     
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    This is why when I look at America separated by vast a ocean.

    I view american liberals who have lost all sense. Showing no respect. Acting like common criminals. No loyalty to their nation to their government or to themselves.

    I view the republicans. President Trump. Trying to show restraint. While he has important work to do. There is no choice who to do business with.
     
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    There's no double standard, you're just deflecting.

    He can speak his mind, something he doesn't seem to have a problem with, and if he gets punched, kicked or hurt then he gets hurt. Especially when you speak of "peaceful ethnic cleansing," then you deserve it.
     
  9. Brewskier

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    Sure there is. When you support violence against one extreme political group but not the other? What do you call it?

    So he deserves to be violently attacked for speaking his mind. Got it.

    You'll notice even Spencer advocates a peaceful method to obtain his goal. That's more than can be said for you.
     
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    Yep. He's called for ethnic cleansing and likes to quote the Nazis, therefore there is absolutely nothing good about him nor any reason to respect him or his rights.

    In case it's not clear, if at any point you call for ethnic cleansing then fyck you and everything you stand for.
     
  11. Brewskier

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    He wants a white nation in the US, similar to how Keith "X" Ellison wanted/wants a black nation in the US. Spencer has not called for violence. You have.
     
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    Generally speaking it’s not cool to inflict violence on someone for their political views. But the what distinguishes the alt-Right is that it is a political philosophy which is inherently hostile to different groups of people (i.e. non-Whites).

    For example, there is nothing inherently hostile in the philosophy of liberalism to any group of people. Likewise in socialism, conservatism, environmentalism, libertarianism, anarchism, and a whole range of other “isms”.

    But White nationalism, identity politics, or alt-Right, defines itself in such a way as to create division among races and spawn hostility and malice toward non-Whites. Hence it is not surprising why anyone who preaches the gospel of the alt-Right would be physically attacked by people belonging to a racial minority.
     
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    then we should hunt down and violently attack communist because communist have mass murdered three times more then the Nazis did
     
  14. Brewskier

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    Liberalism is very hostile to whites. New Black Panthers, BLM, La Raza, Brown Berets, and many other racist hate groups are all under the left's umbrella, and they have whites as their enemy.

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    But that's different, somehow. It's totally cool to call yourself a communist in our progressive society.
     
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    The problem with collectivist drones is that they label anyone who dares resist the "greater good" they want to impose on the world, a racist, sexist, bigot, Nazi, etc. What the drones are really asking is, if we label a resisting subject as a racist, is it okay to assault them?
     
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    You mean legal fees? That's what he said, I still remember it. "Send them out on a stretcher" was another. But yeah, punching a Nazi should be fine, since in nature, Nazi's are deplorable creatures. They have no ones interests in mind other than their own. The alt-right is the right that is fringe-like, tilts towards but not fully fascism (and yes, I understand fascism can be applied to either side). This type of ugliness should have stayed at the bottom of the ocean, but came up to surface because Trump was the bait and hook.

    So, I don't believe punching a Nazi should be considered assault.
     
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    The left has always been violent against those who aren't on board with their agenda, regardless of their faux support of "free speech". That's why they need to stay out of power.
     
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    So I guess him using "peaceful" when describing his call for ethnic cleansing is supposed to make it all better, right? Peaceful cleansing is still cleansing and if he wants a white nation in the U.S. then move to the most northern part of Alaska. Plenty of white up there.
     
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    Ironically, that's how the Nazis viewed Jews and Communists. They justified violence against them in the same manner.

    Congrats, you are what you claim to hate.

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    Is non-violence superior to violence? Why can't he advocate for a white society in the way non-whites advocate for a non-white society? So such a double standard?

    There's plenty of whites in his part of the country, as well.
     
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    The Nazis also wanted a purely white race running everything and that's why 11 million civilians didn't make it to the end of WW2 in addition to the millions of other soldiers.
     
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    No need for violence. Hit them with the Constitution. That is how you defeat a Nazi.
     
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    Doesn't matter if it's peaceful or not, if you advocate for ethnic cleansing you forfeit your right to sympathy or mercy IMO.

    And I bet they're all just as fcked up in the head as he is.
     
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    But, would justice be served fast enough? Or would they plead it is infringing on their 1st Amendment rights? I am all for the freedom of speech, but I am not sure if everyone, and anyone should get a pass.
     
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    Dehumanizing others and justifying violence against them is what the Nazis did, and it's what you are doing. You also excuse communists who killed far more than the Nazis did.

    You think you have a moral high ground, but you don't.
     
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    Really? Because the last time Nazis were soundly defeated it involved violence by way of several thousand Allied soldiers.
     

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