Australia - the dumping ground for the rest of the World.

I give in, you're telling the story.

I was just commenting on the blatant hypocrisy of mentioning Howard and ignoring Gillard.

 

No, they're actually all separate terms with their own distinct meanings.

There is no "play on words" involved: they all have their own unique legal definition.

Asylum seekers, for example, are not illegal immigrants.

These terms seem to cause you, and others on here, a great deal of confusion.

This link may help you:

http://www.multiculturalaustralia.edu.au/lessons/viewLesson/Refugees.114

 

Do you have any comments on the blatant hypocrisy of calling Gillard "Juliar" and ignoring Howard's lies about WMDs in order to carry out an illegal invasion and lies about children being thrown overboard?

 

Do you have any comments on the blatant hypocrisy of calling Gillard "Juliar" and ignoring Howard's lies about WMDs in order to carry out an illegal invasion and lies about children being thrown overboard?

 

Do you have any comments on the blatant hypocrisy of calling Gillard "Juliar" and ignoring Howard's lies about WMDs in order to carry out an illegal invasion and lies about children being thrown overboard?

 

Oh rubbish...lets just call them "people of the world"...lets give them all
accomodation...and you can take the first one...have you a room...no of course
not...everyone talks about the dictionary meaning of each phrase...but when
its all said and done..use a bit of foresight...in ten years, where are these
thousands of "people of the world" going to be living, and what will they be doing...will they be integrated into society....and what about the other
continents...how many will end up in China, Japan, England, USA...

Answer...none...come on down folks.....come on down.....

 

No, fact.

Legal definitions.

Don't you respect the law?

 

Please stop making things up. It is a really dumb thing to do. Try learning about something before you post.

I have bolded all the countries that take far more refugees than Australia:

Host country - Ratio of refugees to total population - Number of refugees

West Bank and Gaza 1:2 1,739,000
Jordan 1:6 862,700
Lebanon 1:13 294,200
Syria 1:15 1,329,300
Chad 1:35 286,800
Congo-Brazzaville 1:62 60,000
Ecuador 1:64 207,500
Tanzania 1:78 485,700
Iran 1:69 1,025,000
Cyprus 1:75 13,400
Saudi Arabia 1:100 241,100
Kenya 1:103 337,700
Serbia 1:122 77,900
Thailand 1:160 408,400
Pakistan 1:77 2,161,500
Nepal 1:201 129,600
South Africa 1:276 171,400
Egypt 1:436 172,900
Canada 1:750 43,500
Bangladesh 1:823 178,100
Germany 1:3,815 21,600
Australia 1:1,392 14,800
United States 1:2,032 147,200
India 1:2,574 435,900
France 1:1,319 46,400
China 1:3,910 335,400
Spain 1:8,273 5,500
Japan 1:44,100 2,90


Read more: Countries Hosting Refugees, 2006 — Infoplease.com http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0931917.html#ixzz1d4tv3PMh

 

Bad move! Just look at the intercultural tension that now infects these places. Don`t tell me, you don`t get it.

 

Ive said my piece, and Im not going to argue with anyone...
We all have our opinions...
Im not going to allow the thread to become one big bun fight..
See you soon people of the world...welcome to Australia....

Im going fishing...

 

Oh, Mister Magoo ...

 

I don't get why Magoo tried to imply that Australia was the only country that takes refugees, when it is a simple fact that Australia takes far less refugees than many other countries. And now you are trying to tell us that these "non-existant" refugees of Magoo's are responsible for the "intercultural tension that now infects these places."?!?!?

Sorry - but this incoherent and inaccurate xenophopic, racist nonsense the 2 of you are blathering is very hard to "get".

 

Meaningless statistics bugsy and I'm sure you know it.
But where Australia is concerned, seems how you like playing with stats, from the 1,392 quoted above take away all the children and adults who do not work for one reason or another. Then take away all the workers who are government workers because they don't in reality contribute any tax, then take away all the low income earners who pay little or no tax. Now how many workers have you got left? What is the ratio of refos to these workers? This would be a more meaningfull statistic. How many Australians (I bet you are not one of them) are actually contributing something toward the cost of processing and onging support for the total number of refos now in Australia? What is the cost of processing new arrivals and supporting all the refugees now in Australia? Stats Bugsy, give us some meaningfull ones.

 

You may wish to revise that number.

 

LOL, make a thread about it.

You have already agreed with me (as you should most of the time) so get over it.

 

You've lost it Buggs. Howard (honest John, the man of steel) has got nothing to do with Juliar's lies. Only in your fevered imagination is there a connection. Big John has not held office for over 4 years, get over it.

 

Thankfully, with on-shore processing it is now much cheaper than it was.

The racist policies that the Howard government implemented involved the ridiculous costs of processing people in Nauru.

THE Federal Government's "Pacific solution" for asylum seekers, designed to discourage arrivals by processing them offshore, has cost more than $1 billion over five years, according to a new report.

The cost was high, the impact on the asylum seekers was negative and it did not discourage people from coming, says the report, A Price Too High: Australia's Approach to Asylum Seekers
http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/pacific-solution-cost-1b/2007/08/24/1187462523594.html

 

Good comment, 100% right!!!
As I said before, those who give a (*)(*)(*)(*) about boatpeople arriving from countries like Iraq should fly over to take their place there. We don't want you here in Australia....

 

....oh, and before some of you might forget, it was our boys who helped to (*)(*)(*)(*) their country up. Christians on the run since. But you wouldn"t care, would you?

 

Yes and I will add myself to that number too, honestly reading this thread has made me ashamed of being Australian.

Magoo's total disregard for the human rights of others, lumping those so desperate they put their families in the hands of criminals with the hope of surviving and the possibility of a new life, just like the one we ALL (with the exception of the Indigenous Australians) have here in Australia. To disallow others to do what we did is totally hypocritical and un Australian.

Many many more come into Australia Illegally, that is, obtain holiday, work, backpacker visas and papers, come here, then slip out of sight and stay. They are the illegals, using the very system you all ask for. Those that cannot access the system are usually the more genuine, a political refugee cannot just walk up to the government that is persecuting them and ask to leave.

I like Magoo have said my peice. If you cannot understand the difference between a refugee and an illegal immigrant then you had better go back to school.

If you think that bringing in immigrants is going to ruin Australia you're most probably right, look what we have done to our country. I hear you saying, yes look, we have built it up to be what it is today, one of the highest standards of living in the world. But do we deserve it, definitely not.

How many of you invest in Australian Business, Australian made goods. How many of you have your investments tied up in your homes, pushing up prices, taking money away from Australian business. How many of you take in people that have nothing. How many of you go to shelters at Christmas to help those less fortunate. Those with mental health issues that have been neglected by the governments so they can issue tax cuts to get elected.

How many of you are working with our own displaced people. Country people put out of work by mechanisation, Aboriginal people robbed of hunting grounds and made to work at jobs they see no need for to meet what we call "civilised" life. I currently live with an Aboriginal family for the simple reason they are less "civilised" then we are. They are less "civilised" yes, but a lot more "humanitarian".

So your answers are to let the rest of the world rot in the cesspool while we hang on to that which we have claimed is ours. We will need to build a giant army if this is the case. Maybe have a flotilla of destroyers patrolling the coast to shoot the boats out of the water. We could put ankle tags on all arrivals by air to make sure they go. We could recruit more police to kick them all out and build a huge defence force to keep them out.

What right do they have to come here anyway, well the same as us I suppose. We just came. saw, and took what we wanted.

Wake up people, done right, controlled (not by media and talk back radio personalities and definitely not by bloggers) then maybe we can get a win win situation.

 

(with the exception of the Indigenous Australians)

Seen any football lately.

Plenty IA's out there having a go.

 

Its easy to appear more 'humanitarian' when you have no responsibilities because having responsibilities means you have to make decisions and its decisions and taking responsibilities for yourself and others that creates civilisations and any notion of being civilised. Anarchy is a backwards step and a counterproductive condition in a overpopulated and resource challenged future world.

 

Agreed but nothing to do with what I said. I said we are all immigrants here with the exception of the Indigenous Australians). Yes and my girl has worked for 20 years, is a qualified child care worker (obtained the same way and in the same classes, doing the same exams as everyone else and while she worked to support herself). Oh and we know dozens of others that work, sending their kids to private schools and are paying mortgages etc etc.

 

I did say it wrong though ..... mmmm bad.

 

Excellent post.

Refugees, namely from SE Asia since the mid 1970s have been contributing members of Australian society.