Austrian MP Ewald Stadler to Turkish Ambassador:oneway ticket-orient express-Istanbul

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  1. litwin

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    He blames Turkey because a fanatik killed a priest!
    He blames Turkey because critisizm Turkness is crime in law book in Turkey!
    He blames Turks to burry their children (I think he tried to say in east Turkey many girl killed because they had boyfriend, and lost virginity)

    ''He is right''

    So what!! Who doesn't critisize the same acts in this parlemantary or in Turkey people confirm these things?. For what he blames people there, to be romantic?

    And what he advise to do? Let me to tell you what he advises;

    He advises to a fanatic christian to kill an imam and to cut his head?
    He advise to send prison if somebody critisize his nation?

    His critisizms are correct but the way is wrong he makes these critisizm to defence the rashism. In last years few priest killed, some missioners killed cruelly, yes these things happend in Turkey. And more cruel events happened in Turkey. But he is not right that he shows like these events are maden with the agreement of Turkish people, like this priests killed by a normal member of community and people confirmed it.

    On the other hand he close his eyes to discrimination, rashism and Neo Nazizm in Europe. DON'T FORGET TURKEY IS TRYING TO ENTER EU AND TRYING TO ENTEGRATE TO EU LAWS and Turkey changed many things last years.

    In my oppinion, Turkey is a rebel child, but only child who able to hand over the responsibilities, who can help Europe to grown up and to be more powerfull, efficient. On the other hand Europe is 1 size small to handle with Turkey, to integrate inside. Europe doesn't know where to put Turkey. They want to put it in a third place, less than its secondary place where Portugal, Grecee, Polland or Ukrain are in. However Turkey has 70 milion population and will have most chairs after Germany if joins EU. All these countries are less populated, ready to accept their secondary position because doesn't have a change to grown up (except Polland) while Turkey is agressive and has big potential to grown up.

    Turks are not as proffesional as Europeans. For example that the German secret police will help to Nazis and Nazis will kill 8 Turkish kebab store owners only because of they are Turkish identity and Merkel will apoligise and parlemantary will stand 1 min. for them, event will be closed.

    ''If an ambassador gives an interview about discrimination you have to send him back with Orient Express?''
     
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    DutchClogCyborg New Member

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    he blames turkey rightly so.

    Turkey is restricting the integration process. with military conscription and dozens of European groups so the turks do not lose their identity, evne if they are born in Belgium or Germany.
     
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    Try to find more fresh material for your anti Turkey promotion.That video first appeared more than 1 years ago.
     
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    sound very unrealistic , any links?
     
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    or anti-Austrian?
     
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    Source? unrealistic? which one, these are more real than you?

    The Nazis killed 10 people? Merkel apoligised for this you say unrealstic, you search from google...
     
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    Why do u even answer him when he cant even provide any reasonable material to back up his posts except putting a link of a more than 1 year old video? He is just here to insult Turkey.Not to discuss politics.
     
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    So Erdogan calling integration genocide, and Turkish military conscription on people not even born in Turkey help?
     
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    "urks are not as proffesional as Europeans. For example that the German secret police will help to Nazis" i can t get this part
     
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    IF this is true, it's a disgrace. If you move to another country, you accept that you'll integrate, full stop.

    Do you have any credible links?
     
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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conscription_in_Turkey

    Note you get automated Turkish nationality when you are born of a Turkish father, regardless of nation of Birth
     
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    http://articles.cnn.com/2011-11-18/...zi-hajo-funke-state-informants/2?_s=PM:EUROPE

    Beate Z., Uwe M. and Uwe B. were from the Neo Nazis who killed 8 Turkish during 7 years. The below part is from the article,

    ''Beate Z., Uwe M. and Uwe B. were arrested in 1998 after preparing a bomb attack, but neither the German police nor the country's equivalent of the FBI kept them under surveillance afterward.''

    Is it possible and acceptable these people will be in a terorist organisation and German secret police will not able to realise their acts murderings during 7 years. It is obvious that some of them allowed Nazis by not following them. If you wait me to post a paper signed by Germans secret police departmant ''yes we did'' i am sorry i can't find...
     
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    Unlike the pastor killed in turkey in broad day light the nation is in shock, in turkey they shrug. who cares about an infidel, they long took care of all Armenians and Greek Christians anyway :)
     
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    its still far away from "German secret police will help to Nazis"
     

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