AZ Sec Of State Wont Let Obama On Ballot Unless Hawaii Shows More Birth Records

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  1. keymanjim

    keymanjim New Member Past Donor

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    It must kill you to know that we were right all along.

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  2. rahl

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    except as has been proven over and over and over again, at every turn, you have remained entirely wrong for 4 years.
     
  3. SFJEFF

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    Birthers what a joke.

    Want to provide the exact quote? Because of course Obama's lawyer never said any such thing.

    Just another Birther lie.
     
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    That its all a big Conspiracy and that there is no way a black man was elected President?

    No....haven't been right about a single thing so far.

    No closer than tossing out Barack Obama then you were in 2008.
     
  5. keymanjim

    keymanjim New Member Past Donor

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    I just couldn't read past your racism.

    You may go now.
     
  6. Pollycy

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    Somebody must have hit a nerve! Here comes the ultimate Praetorian Guard doomsday weapon: the RACE CARD! When they find themselves threatened and reduced to foaming at the mouth about how "stupid", "retarded", etc., we Obama skeptics are, they fill the skies with RACE CARDS!

    Aside to Keymanjim -- Please give Obama's Praetorian Guard a few broadside blasts of links that support your comments. If the links are valid, and the information inside them, too, it will be most interesting to see what they say next. Typically, though, they sweep aside anything that contradicts the official Obama line and start their usual bombardment with RACE CARDS!
     
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    pollycy, there are no links which are valid, and back up what you birthers say. that's the point. the available evidence proves he is eligibile to be POTUS. it's time you accept it and move on.
     
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    The truth hurts doesn't it?
     
  9. SFJEFF

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    More to the point, it is a Birther lie, started by Birthers, and spread by Birthers.
     
  10. SFJEFF

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    Oh its a demonstratable fact that a significant number of Birthers are racists.

    And I am absolutely correct in pointing out that Birthers only care about making the black candidate prove his eligibility- and could care less about the eligiblity of any white candidates. Whether that is because of their racism or not can be debated.
     
  11. keymanjim

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    There may be some. But, unlike obama supporters, they make up an extreme minority of the whole.
    If you have it in your mind that the only reason people hate obama is his chosen race then you may need to address your own racism before you address others.
     
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    That can be the only logical explanation for the extreme hatred of Obama. He's black.
     
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    Oh I think it is very clear that the reason a certain segment hate Obama is because he is a black man who has the audacity to be successful.

    And then there are others who are so blinded by their own racism that they call anyone a racist who points out the obvious- that the only candidate that Birthers demand extraordinary proof of eligiblity is the black candidate.
     
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    Is the only reason why you like him is because he's black? Because, that's racism also.
     
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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama_citizenship_conspiracy_theories

    I seriously doubt many of Hillary's supporters were racist, but have it your way. As for so many questions being raised before or after the elections, the rise of interest on the issue, were for things he said. My first questions were around, how could a Graduate of Harvard Law School, in Constitutional Law, which requires US History, say what he was saying...
     
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    OK, Jeff, so hit us with a broadside of your credible links that show the proven connection between "birthers" (Obama skeptics) and RACISTS. I'm waiting with bated breath....

    Oh, BTW, is it fair now if we on the Right observe that hyperlibs are guilty of biased hatred against Mormons? http://newsbusters.org/blogs/clay-w...ocks-mormons-i-wouldnt-buy-underwear-just-yet Just curious....
     
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    I have treated Barack Obama exactly as I have treated every white candidate. I have demanded the same level of proof of eligiblity for the black candidate and the white candidates.

    Birthers? Not so much.
     
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    Oh you have seen them- the resident Birthers who also happen to be among the resident racists here on the boards. One of them is banned now, but he keeps re-emerging with different sock puppets before he is banned again. Then there are the ones that call Barack Obama 'boy', another who regularly starts threads where he calls all blacks inferior.

    We don't even have to go beyond these boards- once you get into the Birther websites, they really start going on with the racist remarks.

    But I don't need to prove anything.

    The facts are the facts.

    And the fact is that the only candidate who Birthers make such demands is the black candidate. It was true in 2008 and its true in 2012. Is that because all Birthers are racists? Of course not. Not all Birthers are racists....not all of them....
     
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    Go for it.

    If you check my posting record I regularly denounce those who attack Romney because of his faith- or attack the Mormon religion with the intention of slandering Romney- though it is my observation that those bigots exist on both the left and right.

    I happen to prefer Obama's political orientation more than Romney's, but frankly I think Romney is very capable- and is just as much a centrist as the Far Right keep attacking him for. I despise those who attack Romney based upon his religion.
     
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    We could get into the Birther claims made before the PUMA's got involved- but that isn't important is it?

    I no more apologize or pretend to know why President Obama says what he says than I did for what Bush said.

    If the voters don't like what he says, they can chose not to re-elect him.
     
  22. Pollycy

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    What? Not even ONE link (not even a hyperlib link?)?! Crimony, Jeff, I just knew you could do better than that! "The facts are the facts"?! What the hell does THAT mean...? Hey, I'm one of the most hated, ignored Conservative posters in this Forum -- am I a racist? People like you will curse Obama skeptics as being the lowest form of trash in the world and racists, too, but then you say, "I don't need to prove anything." How revealing! Is this what you ARE?

    I would surely vote for Dr. Alan Keyes (former Black presidential candidate), or Herman Cain (former Black presidential candidate) before I would vote for Ben Bernanke's half-Black handpuppet -- is that "racist"? You and the rest of Obama's Praetorian Guard be sure and keep on throwing those race cards around, Jeff -- you do a better job of discrediting yourselves than we "stupid", "retarded", knuckle-dragging "birthers" ever could....:party:
     
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    But, you're just gonna continue to ignore the proof that has already been provided to you...

    So, why bother?
     
  24. SFJEFF

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    Look Pollycy, I owe you nothing.

    Birthers march out here on the boards all the time spewing their Obama hate, spreading misinformation, speculation, innuendo and lies. I confront that. I call them as I see them. I have seen Birthers here on the boards out their own racist mindset but frankly, I am not going to waste my time finding the examples of their posts. Would it change your opinion- no. Would it change one Birthers opinion- no? I have seen enough evidence here and other places to convince me that a certain unidentified percentage of Birthers are racists. I realize, and never have claimed that all Birthers are racists.

    But and here is the but- the fact remains that the only candidate that Birthers have ever demanded the myriad of 'proofs' for- ranging from a moving target of birth certificates and confirmations, to kindergarten records and school finance records and wierdly enough records of ex-girlfriends- happens to be the black candidate.

    Nobody has ever asked the white candidates these questions. No one has ever accused the white candidates of 'hiding everything' when their record of releasing this information is exactly the same as Barack Obama's.

    It is not racism to point out the facts. But if you want to think otherwise- go for it.
     
  25. Pollycy

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    You and the others like you never tire of finding new ways to curse, excoriate, and insult we who are unashamed skeptics of your President Messiah.

    The fact that when challenged for just ONE LOUSY LINK to a substantive source of evidence to back up your claims that Obama skeptics are racists produced NOTHING tells everyone who reads these posts exactly what kind of people you Obamanite "true believers" are! Thank you! If I labored for days to think up hateful, nauseating descriptions of you and your kind, I could never do as good a job of showing the whole world exactly who you are and how you think than you have already provided. See you at the election in November... and, believe this -- you aren't going to like it! :nana:
     

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