Azerbiajan Attacks Armenia & Greece Attacks Turkish Ship

Looks like the world is ready to explode:

There were explosions by artillery and drones reported by residents of cities shortly after midnight on Tuesday. Armenia blames Azerbiajan for the attack.

In the meantime, A Turkish cargo vessel had a run-in with a Greek coast guard patrol off Turkey’s Aegean coast on Saturday, with the two nations providing conflicting accounts of the incident. The Turks say there was “harassment fire” from the Greek coast guard while sailing in international waters. But that's not what the Greeks say.

According to their coast guard, the ‘Anatolian’ was found moving “suspiciously” in the country’s waters to the northwest of Lesbos, a large Greek island located near the Turkish coast. The ‘Anatolian’ was contacted by the coast guard, which urged it to alter its course and leave the Greek territorial waters. The vessel, however, did not comply and warning shots were fired “in a safe area".

Add to this Erdogans threats of an eminent attack and its plans of occupying Greek islands which they feel should be rightfully theirs, as well as what's going on in Syria, and it looks like the whole Near and Middle East will be in flames.

"...Shots are being fired “along the entire line of the Armenian-Azerbaijani border,” and the government in Yerevan has called an urgent meeting, according to local media.

The Armenian Defense Ministry said the army of Azerbaijan has used heavy artillery and drones are also being used. A Turkish-made Bayraktar drone was allegedly shot down over Vardenis, which is in northern Armenia and not adjacent to the disputed region of Nagorno Karabakh. Armenian troops are giving an adequate response..."

https://www.rt.com/russia/562662-azerbaijan-strikes-armenian-border/​

"...According to Turkey’s Ministry of Interior, the cargo vessel came under “harassment fire” from the Greek coast guard while sailing off the Turkish island of Bozcaada in international waters. Two Turkish coast guard vessels were dispatched to assist the ‘Anatolian’, but the Greek vessel left the area after detecting the approaching ships, the ministry claimed..."

"...According to the Greek coast guard, however, the ‘Anatolian’ was found moving “suspiciously” in the country’s domestic waters to the northwest of Lesbos, a large Greek island located near Turkish coast. The ‘Anatolian’ was contacted by the coast guard, which urged it to alter its course and leave Greek territorial waters. The vessel, however, did not comply and warning shots were fired “in a safe area,” the Greek side claimed. The ship did not stop, even while it was under fire, and ultimately escaped into Turkish territorial waters..."

https://www.rt.com/news/562597-greece-turkey-ship-incident/​

 

Armenia lost 49 soldiers in the attack by Azerbaijan. Russia is Armenia's ally through the Collective Security Treaty Organization and they expressed their concern about the situation and called on the two countries to cease hostilities and implement the agreed ceasefire - which they did and it was broken immediately.

 

This is a VERY IMPORTANT issue !
I think Azebiajan attacks Armenia because they smell the Russian Bear bleeding..

 

Good point.

 

I think it goes further than that. Today a broadcaster in Turkey presented a new found map. It's the new Turkish Empire in 2025, and it includes, Armenia, Crimea, Cyprus, the city of Thessaloniki, Mosul and the large Greek islands of Rhodes, Chios and Lesbos.

Greece of course is aware of it since Turkey is ready to attack, but I'm sure Russia is as well.

 

And here is the leaked 2025 map of the new Turkish Empire as presented in a Turkish tv station Beyaz TV during a discussion between the presenter Turker Akinci and the Turkish political analyst and writer Engin Avci. According to him the New Turkish Empire will dominate the Aegean, the Black Sea and the Eastern Mediterranean. That the people living there are not Turkish in language, ethnicity or faith, doesn't matter when Empire is the name and extermination the game.

The Turkish analyst starts first with southern Cyprus. The Aegean, Black Sea and the Eastern Mediterranean will be completely transformed into a Turkish lake. "The process will start from Thessaloniki and in fact we will have our own coast opposite, as there is a process of returning Crimea to Turkey. Crimea will be placed under the full control of Turkey."
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A process of returning Crimea to Turkey? Well the process is certainly not with Russia, so what countries is he talking about?

The Turkish analyst also states that "Armenia will be fully associated with the Turkish world and as Armenia it will become smaller." and continues: "In Syria at the moment it is planned to establish a Turkmen Republic, you know that there is agreement on this?​

A Turkmen Republic agreement with who? It certainly is not with Syria or Russia?

In a similar style of imperial aspirations, the well-known Turkish journalist-mouthpiece of Erdoğan, Ibrahim Karagül, included in his post on Twitter: "Mosul, Kirkuk, Aleppo, Jerablus, Afrin, and the Greek islands of Rhodes, Chios, Lesvos...". ​

Sounds to me like there is some treachery afoot by a large power and some smaller ones and a world war is in the making.

https://twitter.com/ibrahimkaragul/...tai-aytokratoria-me-thessaloniki-kai-krimaia/

The map can be seen if you fast forward it to the 6:30 mark.

 

In my opinion, your thread is a red herring, to distract from aggressor Russia's crumbling position in Ukraine, from which the desperate Putin is now making the utterly irresponsible threat of using nuclear weapons, not only in defense of Russia's own, established borders.

The Armenia & Azerbaijan story is nothing new.

The Greek & Turkish incident, you misrepresent.
Here, from Al Jazeera:

[Snip]
The Greek coast guard confirmed it fired "warning shots" at a ship "moving suspiciously” in Greek territorial waters off the island of Lesbos.

The captain of the cargo ship refused to allow an inspection and was later escorted to nearby Turkish waters, said Greek coastguard officials, noting they informed maritime authorities in Turkey about the incident.

The area is known for many ships bringing migrants from Turkey to the European Union countries of Greece and Italy. The Greek coastguard says it regularly checks ships behaving suspiciously in the Aegean.
[End]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.al...uard-fires-on-cargo-ship-in-aegean-sea-turkey


The "world is ready to explode," my ass.

 

Remember your words because that's where the war will go after the Baltics. Besides I'm getting tired of reading about Ukraine. The war will be over in a few weeks as Russia uses its might and takes it all, while Ukraine in retaliation tries to kill as many civilians as it can before its defeat.

 

Remember your words. The war in Ukraine will be over, "in a few weeks as Russia...takes it all..."

Today is Monday, October 3rd--
2022.
You are predicting not only an end to the war, but one not due to Russia's withdrawal; or even to the untrue end, of just a cease fire; but through Russia's taking ALL of Ukraine-- by the end of the month????

I guess that's a conservative estimate, compared to that of @Destroyer of illusions , who has been saying that the war is already over, and that all that has been going on has been "cleanup," since March-- though it's funny, that Putin would feel he might need nuclear weapons, to finish a "cleanup."

 

Turkey will NOT attack Greece.
The Sultan is a bad man but not that crazy.

 

Azerbaijan proven to have executed Armenian POWs. Notice how Russia did nothing when Armenia was attacked despite their mutual defense treaty?

 

Armenia was not attacked. The Armenians in Nagorno Karabach were attacked. It's a disputed area.

There was no war in Ukraine, it was a Special Military Operation with a limited amount of men. Since the attack on the bridge, Russia has increased its attacks to an Anti terrorist operation.

When the real war starts, and I believe it will start shortly, then it will be over quickly. Let's not forget, Russia is not fighting Ukraine, it's fighting Nato and they are starting to run out of arms. Russia in contrast has an endless supply as well as more advanced weaponry.

As for a nuclear attack, Russia's not the one saying it. Washington is saying it, which of course makes one suspicious that Ukraine is planning some kind of provocation, like for instance a 'dirty bomb'.

 

Erdogan plays it smart, and with all the ongoing threats and claims about the Aegean and the Greek islands being part of Turkey, it's doubtful he will attack Greece. That is unless he decides to grab a few rocks and some small island in the Aegean to pacify the nationalists in Turkey.

He's under immense pressure though, and he might not survive. If he doesn't, then a war is a definite. Even now Greece is getting furious with the constant incursion into their waters and overflights as well as searching for oil and gas in Greece's territorial waters.

 

That is just straight out false Jenny. All of the September attacks were on the bordfer between Armenia & Azerbajan. None were on the border with Nagorno Karabach. Armenia begged Russia for help & Russia refused. Armenia then turned to the EU, which is now helping to sort out the border dispute.

More untruths & distortions Jenny. It never ends.

 

Talking about Turkey, Erdogan started the process of the Great Turan by forming one alphabet for all the Turkish people and nations. The Great Turan is a union of all the Turkish people and Erdogan with his messianic views, has been working on it since his inception.

If it comes to fruition and all the Turkish people unite militarily, their army will exceed that of China. I'm sure the Kremlin for all the friendship between Putin and Erdogan, is watching the development closely, knowing Turkey can easily block Russia's access to the Mediterranean.

Erdogan knows that the Ottoman Empire went to war with Russia 16 times and lost. If Pakistan with its nuclear weapons becomes part of the Turan and the secular nationalists in Turkey take over, things can become dangerous.

I'm just speculating here.

 

Despite deep seated religious (shia), ethnic (Azeris account for up to 35% of Iran's own population), historical (northern Azerbaijan was part of Iran throughout history until snatched away from Iran by Russia in the 19th century) ties with Iran, the Republic of Azerbaijan has poor relations with Iran, allied with Turkey, supplied by Israel, and allowing itself to serve as a base for the Israelis against Iran. On the other hand, Iran has excellent relations with Christian Armenia, with which it also has deep seated cultural and historical ties (Yerevan was part of Iran until the Treaty of Turkmanchai in 1828...)

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Greece's attack of the cargo vessel may have also been related to this:
Iran seizes Greek tanker, in retribution for US seizing tanker carrying Iranian oil

 

No. Unrelated.

The Armenia/Azerbaijan issue, however, is somewhat a (neglected) powder keg that can blow up. It deserves more attention than it gets.

To underline the importance of this issue to Iran, the Iranian military conducted a massive drill along its borders with Azerbaijan and Armenia. One of the messages sent in those war games was an exercise involving the building of a pontoon bridge across the Aras river (forming the border between Iran and Azerbaijan) with Iran moving tanks over the river.

 

Asking the EU or the US, would be like asking the Fox to watch the chicken coup. The only land that was invaded and taken by Azerbaijan was in Novorno Karabach and it's recognized internationally as part of Azerbaijan. They did not invade Armenia proper, because they know that Russia has a military agreement with them. There might have been other border skirmishes, but I can't find anything on it.

Azerbaijan won the war and managed to take some territory from Novorno Karabach because they received help from Turkey who considers Azerbiajan their territory and a brother nation, as well as from Israel who has historical animosities towards Armenians dating back to the Ottoman Empire, and who supplied them with drones - something the Armenians were not prepared for.

Russia has friendly relations with both nations and brought about a peace agreement which was not to Armenia's liking. But it could not be helped since Azerbaijan had already advanced into Novorno Karabach and legally it is their land. The Azeris are not so stupid as to invade Armenia proper, because of its military agreement with Russia - so stop spinning things. As for the idiot Palosi, she went there to rile things up the way she did with Taiwan. Then again what else is new.

 

A very good video, although since then, other issues have grown in importance, making this a very dangerous potential powder keg that can explode into a much bigger war. Hope not.

 

All I need to know is who is fighting for democracy and against Nazi's. I need to know what flag to put on social media.

 

Repeatedly stating something that is untrue does not make it true Jenny. All the clashes in September were on the internationally recognized border between Armenia & Azerbaijan. Russia refused to help because it is a weak, useless ally.

 

Greeks are trying to provoke Türkiye to initiate a war, doing this by completely relying on some European countries and US, does not take a lesson from Ukraine-Russia event. Whereas Türkiye is not going to prolong this event as much as Russia did in Ukraine but will directly destroy the capital Athens. A video was leaked recently, test shot of a newly produced ballistic missile by Türkiye, hit a target 561 km away, distance between Istanbul and Athens.

 

Greece is provoking Turkey by not giving them what legally belongs to Greece. Interesting!

 

Well the way it stands today, the Russians are the ones fighting the Nazis, but I don't think you better put it on the social media. Ukraine just named a street in Kiev for the 'heroes of the Nazi Azov battalion'. Here's a picture of their Azov heroes:




And here are some of their tortures.


And here are what the people of Mariupol said about them.
https://rumble.com/v17ee6n-azov-battalion-truth-mariupol-people-speak.html