Bad conditions in American prisons

Discussion in 'Human Rights' started by Anders Hoveland, May 2, 2012.

  1. bambu-wisdom

    bambu-wisdom New Member

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    'Capital punishment'...a 'sanitised' term for premeditated, cold-blooded killing by the state...is effective...effective in violating human rights and making the state a cold-blooded killer the same as some of those it puts to death.
     
  2. Anders Hoveland

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    I vehemently disagree. While I do not think just plain murder should be punished with a death sentence, there are some heinous crimes which are deserving.
    Most of these anti-capital punishment people are pro-abortion anyway. I just don't understand it. Where does all that empathy that they have for evil murderous monsters go when it comes to the fetus??

    Look, all I am saying is that the people in prison may have made mistakes, but not all of them deserve mistreatment and abuse. A few of them, but definitely not all of them.
    If some conservatives want to argue that prisoners deserve whatever they get in prison, I would ask that, if you really feel that way, then at least create two diferent tiers of prison. Because not all of them deserve whatever they get. I don't think the crime of murder alone should warrant overcrowding and terrible food as part of the punishment.
     
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    I've read many studies that illustrate the point of it costing more per year per convict that it does per student in education. There def needs to be a reform, and there are some good ideas on this.

    1) Prison Labor programs. Make the prisons into factories (adds the bonus of even cheaper labor than china). This allows prisons to negate some of their operating costs.
    2) non-violent crimes do not make an individual a risk to society. There is no reason to cage them. They can pay off their crime through community service.
    3) Rehabilitation programs in prison need rebuffing. A lot of people end up in prison because they had no clear alternative path. Education systems in prison, and Release to work programs help many turn over a new leaf.
    4) Prison really should be about those who's crimes cannot be reconciled and convicts who cannot be rehabilitated.
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    #1, there go our jobs.. foreign outsourcing for pennies a day.... meets in-sourcing slave labor in our prisons


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  5. FFbat

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    You seriously overestimate the production and technical expertise capabilities of your average inmate. Sorry to tell you, but low skill manufacturing jobs are never coming back to the USA, We need better engineers and better technology to regain world market share on high skill manufacturing jobs... in house forced labor just takes jobs away from the Chinese and lowers your taxes by augmenting the financial burden of prisons.
     
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    “Hang tight, we’ll come get you in a minute”...
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    Student abandoned in cell four days gets US$4.1m
    Thu, Aug 01, 2013 - A 25-year old college student reached a US$4.1 million settlement with the US government after he was abandoned in a windowless cell for more than four days without food or water, his attorneys said on Tuesday.
     

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