Baltimore NoTravel Zones

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  1. MisLed

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    Putting aside the idiocy that implies the president has anything to do with this, why haven't Maryland state police been around downtown from the start? Just because. With SWAT teams or something.

    And its not like the heat doesn't make people crazy.
     
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    how about the mayor? And I do think it is the president's responsibility. Many times he could have said, and probably still could before it's too late, that this racial mob violence MUST STOP. But he hasn't. Sorta suspicious wouldn't you say? For a presidebt that has consistently stuck his nose into local incidents? Now when he could actually do some good? he's nowhere to be seen.
     
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    oh. the heat is it. And that excuses it. Well. you know. Florida is awfully hot.
     
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    Obviously the mayor yes, seeing as how she is head of the city. Exactly what do you want Obama to do here? Whose job is it to stop racial violence specifically since its been happening long before he got elected and likely will be around long after. And these are kids we're talking about, they won't listen, they didn't care about being civil during the George Zimmerman case so why would they care now?
     
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    Obama throws his hat into issues like Trayvon Martin and Sandra Fluke, yet he has nothing at all to say when his most loyal followers (blacks) are out waging a race war and terrorizing innocent people.

    What more could we expect from a guy who grew up in black liberation theology?
     
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    I don't think we've seen a guy in the WH that has inserted himself into so many venues where it would be of more benefit to keep his mouth shut. Then when he might be able to help with those blacks that have chips on their shoulders, he's on the links, outta the country or sitting on TheView.
     
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    The only time Obama ever chided the black community was when they started complaining about the lack of jobs in their communities. He literally them to "stop crying".

    He won't scold them on their violence, though. He'll lose his street cred amongst blacks, and he doesn't want that to happen.

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    There's no obligation for him to do or say anything, and plus I don't think he needs to tell or be told that engaging in this type of violence is doing nothing, it tells itself pretty well. Of course if you really do need the POTUS to come out and say that instead of figuring it out on your own, maybe they're just failures at being decent people.
     
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    Oh YES THERE IS an obligation for him to say something ESPECIALLY based on how he presented himself during his run for the presidency. POST RACIAL. total bs of course. He has nothng in common with US blacks. or whites for that matter. He's sees blacks as stepping stones and whites as his sugar daddies.
     
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    He was supposed to be the great unifier who was to bring Americans together, yet he stands idly by and says nothing when his people are raging a race war? He calls Sandra Fluke personally on that issue, gets involved in the Trayvon Martin incident (simply because Trayvon is black), yet he can't be bothered with this issue? Give me a break. He could say something anytime he wants. It could save lives.
     
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    Saying something will only go so far, as I've already said the people doing this don't seem to care. Saying something out of obligation rather than purely out of your will kinda takes away the sincerity of it anyway.
     
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    From the actual article.

    A Baltimore County delegate said Wednesday that the governor should send in the Maryland State Police to control "roving mobs of black youths" at Baltimore's Inner Harbor, prompting a colleague to label the message "race-baiting."

    Del. Patrick L. McDonough, a Republican whose district includes part of Harford County, distributed a news release with the headline: "Black Youth Mobs Terrorize Baltimore on Holidays." In it, McDonough said he had sent a letter to Gov. Martin O'Malley urging him to use the state police to help prevent attacks and to declare the Inner Harbor area a "no-travel zone" until safety can be guaranteed.


    What an interesting proposal from this talk show host/politician.

    For starters, police are not used to "control" people. Police are tasked with a specific job, and pandering to idiots who think that the black people are going to get them doe snot seem to be one of those jobs.

    Secondly, one runs into the constitutionality of "controlling' people or regulating where folks may travel to. This utterly ridiculous proposal sounds to me like a fantasy police state.

    That being said, I do find the claim the president is somehow responsible for local crime to be rather laughable in it's partisan nature. It is as if an impossible standard is set and when that standard is not reached the president is criticized for not reaching it.
     
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    Obama got involved back in 2009 when the police arrested that black professor. He said the police "acted stupidly". He even weighed in on the Kanye West/Taylor Swift story. He's gotten involved with tons of stories that he could have easily ignored. Having gangs of roaming blacks attacking people in the inner city, and he can't say anything?

    He doesn't care about this. That's why he doesn't say anything.
     
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    What do you think the Chicago police are doing right this minute around the big Nato Meeting? Serving tea and crumpets? But, you're right. NO PROBLEMS HERE. No problem to you anyway, right tfm? It's all okay with you. At some point, this anarchy is going to be in your face. LEt's see how you react to it then.
     
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    You just listed 2 seperate and fairly minor incidents, for one. Secondly, what would you expect him to do regarding the crime? I don't believe he is Batman, one of the Avengers or riot control, that's what actual riot control police/SWAT teams are for. Those guys will actually get something accomplished, a press conference will not solve anything anymore than it solved the Kanye West incident.
     
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    Judging by the messianic way that some blacks view Obama, I would say a strong condemnation from him could possibly make a difference in these crimes. These gangs of roaming blacks likely believe that Obama is on their side on this issue. Obama already cleared up which side of the Zimmerman issue he is on... the side with his theoretical son.

    If gangs of whites were targeting blacks, do you think Obama would stay silent?
     
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    I expect that the Chicago police are enforcing the law.

    However, the Maryland state police are not at the beck and call of talk show hosts, and we, as a country, do not use police as tools of partisanship. If there is a crime in this area of Baltimore, then the laws should be enforced. But this odd idea that we should "control" groups of people is not only morally repugnant but appears to be a gross abuse of the intended purpose of the police.
     
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    Hay ... we always have you to spread the good word. :)
     
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    the walking left wants as little done about this as Obonehead does. They want it to play out.
     
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    So you think the chic-cops are out using a billy club on a copy of the city's consititution? They are controlling the anarchists. I wish they'd bust a few well placed heads. Do us all good.
     
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    So you think the chic-cops are out using a billy club on a copy of the city's consititution? They are controlling the anarchists. I wish they'd bust a few well placed heads. Do us all good.
     
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    Congratulations. I simply wish that anyone that breaks the law is held accountable under the law, and I do not wish that police officers dole out punitive treatment. After all, there is a presumption of innocence in this country and this thing called a Constitution.

    As for your first sentence, i never said any such thing, and I would appreciate it if you did not create false positions for me and then argue against such things.
     
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    you don't seem to have a problem with the police or gov't controlling people that don't agree with you.
     
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    I think the biggest problem we have "today" is that there's way to much Internet Chatter and "not" enough Face-2-Face time.

    I believe much of our perception problems could be resolved, if people would express themselves directly, that way there could be not misunderstandings of what they are really saying.

    It takes guts ... but I'm always willing meet anyone at least halfway.

    Anyone can be an expert on anything on the internet.

    No ones skin is in the game ... :)

    Come-on ... who's with me on this?
     

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