Ban the sale of firearms to transgenders

This should appear reasonable to those using the standard gun control arguments. The majority of transgenders contemplate suicide, and are much more likely to attempt suicide.

If not an all out ban, perhaps they can undergo psychiatric evaluation and be issued a license if deemed fit.

Does this sound reasonable to anyone here?

 

Many of them are suicidal, so giving them guns without a mental health check should be a no-go.

 

Do you support the same ban for non-trans people taking meds for depression?

 

Maybe if they weren't constantly treated like absolute **** in society, this would be less of an issue?

What about other subgroups identified as higher-risk of self harm - ex-military, young males, etc.? Or why not for everyone, since a lot of mental health risks aren't obvious?

 

Complete nonsense.

 

Can I assume this means you are in favor of psychiatric evaluation for all wanting to purchase a gun? And you mention licensing - are you in favor of all gun purchases requiring a license?

 

Good point...there is a very high number or Iraq/Afghan war vets committing suicide. I wonder why the OP hasn't suggested banning them from owning firearms.

 

I don't believe they are treated badly.. It is more likely that those saying insensitive things or not using the proper pronoun will be treated badly.


If anything, those profiting from telling them they were born defective and require drugs and surgery to "fix" are the problem.

I want to keep the discussion about this one specific group.

 

No. I would like to hear your opinion on this specific issue. Its just a polite discussion with no wrong answers.

 

They are definitely treated badly. Much more badly than those who are just using the wrong pronoun for them.

 

Sounds like it sounds perfectly reasonable to a gun grabber such as yourself.

Vast majority of gun owners agree there should be psychiatric evaluation, - for all gun buyers.

Maybe, but they put themselves in that situation. Most people don't see them as normal. They can pretend to, but they don't.

 

I see a lot of people treated badly for many reasons. From what I see, they are put on a pedestal and even receive benefits not available to the rest of us. Can you receive unnecessary cosmetic surgery, courtesy of the tax payer?

What about the topic? Would you support the ban?

 

I'm not sure where they are getting taxpayer funded cosmetic surgery. Where is that happening? Meanwhile, minors get cosmetic surgery all of the time. And trans surgery for minors is pretty uncommon.

 

It would appear that you oppose the idea. Is that correct?

 

I think you are already on record opposing the idea. The rest is for another discussion.

 

Yes. I oppose sure a violation of the 2nd Amendment.

 

Nope, just the ones who are already struggling with some kind of dysphoria.
Would you give a gun to someone who claims they are an Apache Helicopter?

 

I have made my position clear. I support a national carry license, and to get one, you need to pass criminal background check, mental evaluation and basic firearms safety course. It doesn't make any sense to have one set up laws for gays, trans, whites, blacks, or any other sub category of people. Same laws for everyone.

 

Being dumb is an example of lack of education or common sense.
Pretending you're something you're not, isn't dumb, its closer to psychotic. Which is why its classified as dysphoria.

 

I would be for a mandatory mental health evaluation for EVERYONE buying a gun, including a one month waiting period. That, and universal background checks, without gun show or private sales loopholes.

Of course, I know that you are starting this thread not as a pro-gun-control thread, but rather as an anti-trans-people thread.

 

You're wrong, I've witnessed it many times.

Why? If your argument is that transgender people should have specific restrictions because they disproportionately suffer depression and suicide, why wouldn't the same principle apply to any other group that also disproportionately suffers those kind of things?

Or was this just a way to toss some backhanded insult at transgender people? (you know, the ones you don't believe are treated badly)

 

I agree having a dysphoria doesn't make you dangerous, nor does (or should) it remove your constitutional rights. But it does show an intended break with reality. At what degree would be undetermined.
Coupled with the highest percentage of suicide.
Currently, questions on a gun permit include mental health issues?
I don't think any Trans would admit or list they have some kind of gender dysphoria. Which if listed on a gun permit would most likely disqualify you. Thats just a guess but given the fact that the person reading that application at a federal level, not knowing this person, I think its safe to say they would decline the app based on the fact, if the applicant killed themselves or someone else, that app is going to be traced back to who validated it.
And the question would be, Why did you approve someone who admitted they are clearly mentally unstable or under any kind of mental duress.