So, I'm making this new thread (I never make new threads) in response to this thread: http://www.politicalforum.com/religion-philosophy/358341-irish-pastor-rips-into-islam.html This pastor is spreading hate about Islam. He seems justified in his harsh attack on Islam because of evil terrorists, but even if Islam is super evil, isn't he just using that as an excuse to spread hate? To better illustrate my point, I decided to post this video of my favorite news station- The Onion News Network. [video=youtube;asI9U9lwz3A]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asI9U9lwz3A[/video] My favorite part: "We could use Griffins, but we won't use griffins, and that's what separates us from them." Who cares if we used an 11 foot tall beastly minotaur to torture terrorists, we never used griffins to torture terrorists like they did to our troops. Beastly Minotaur: Griffin: So, should winning the moral high ground mean barely winning the moral high ground, or should we aim for something a bit higher? I may be a little off-base, and maybe this should be in the funnies section of the forum, but I also felt the relgion section could use a dose of humor, I don't know.
I personally believe that the only true way to achieve the moral high ground is to not do the same behavior you find deplorable. Anything else is really dishonesty. Doing the same behavior while having a different justification of it while criticizing the people who do the behavior one finds deplorable just doesn't cut it my book. Neither does the dirty rotten trick of renaming it so it won't be that behavior.just doesn't cut it, at least for me.
If one does the same as the other that is being criticized, there is no moral high ground. If one uses a bat to hit someone and the other uses a large stick, they both are still hitting someone.
Because I have never been treated in a fair or respectful manner by those particular people, ever. Every time I express any kind of opinion contrary to theirs they get really upset at me and try to bully, intimidate, and shame me into silence, using any dirty rotten trick they can think of. So I can only conclude one thing: these people are intolerant bigots of anything other than their own opinion, and they can not support their opinions in a thoughtful way, and probably know their belief is wrong and harmful to other people, but they enjoy seeing other people in pain and get a great deal of entertainment from it. Now keep in mind one thing before you start calling me a hypocrite and insulting and berating me to no end. Criticism is not the same as behavior. One shouldn't confuse the two, but some people are incapable of separating the two. I have a fair amount of baggage from how I've been treated throughout my life, and I have my bigotries, prejudices and hang ups. As do we all. And yes, I know, it is all my fault no matter what and I bring all on myself over and over and over again ad nauseum. Everybody else is just too perfect and never make any kind of mistakes themselves. But I also have one other rule that I do my best to follow. If a person will treat me with fairness and respect, I will do the same thing in return, to the best of my ability. Regardless of what they believe even, at least to a point. Now, if all you have is nothing but insults and personal attacks against me, don't bother, I will not respond to them.
You're obviously upset at the thought of being held to your own standard. I've been trashed by many blacks and Latinos, even from early childhood, simply for being white. Should I follow your viewpoint and hate them all? I have no idea who you are railing about, but let me know who hasn't been mistreated in their life and let me know why you singularly are allowed to be a raging hypocrite about it. The definition of hypocrite in the dictionary (and in the Bible) does not mean actions-only. Criticizing someone for what you do IS what hypocrisy is. hy·poc·ri·sy /hiˈpäkrisē/ noun: hypocrisy; plural noun: hypocrisies the practice of claiming to have moral standards or beliefs to which one's own behavior does not conform; pretense. I have no idea what baggage you speak of, though you clearly carry a mountain of it. You made a vague reference to a post which explained something but didn't leave a link, so there's no way to see what you're referring to.
Hypocrisy is far too loosely used these days and the is no real substance to it. Calling somebody else a hypocrite is just another dirty rotten trick the unintelligent try to use to shut people up. Any more and I will start reporting you for personal attacks, which is not allowed on this site. I am not going to respond any more to you since you seem incapable of nothing more than dirty rotten tricks and personal attacks to try to shut me up.
far be it from me to speak for anyone else, but I'd just like to point out something to you, if I may YOU HAVE NO (*)(*)(*)(*)ING IDEA WHAT IT'S LIKE TO BE A VISIBLY DIFFERENT NON-WHITE RACE IN A DOMINANTLY WHITE SOCIETY. you have not the slightest clue what it means to belong to a group who've been wilfully kept down and disenfranchised for generations, so shut the (*)(*)(*)(*) up. thanks.
So, just like the feminists, it's okay for ethnic minorities to hate the white man because the white man hates them? Sorry, if racism and bigotry is wrong, then all of it is wrong. However, I certainly do understand your frustration and anger. White western culture is a society based on intolerance and bigotry. Edit: But please, don't misunderstand me, I am not calling you ahypocrite. I'm developing a psychopathic hatreed of that word along with a few others.
I don't hate whites - hell I'm almost white myself. What I can't stand is comfortable whitey claiming they know what it's like to be discriminated against on the basis of race. Very VERY few have even the tiniest clue.
I think you'd be surprised. There are a lot of disenfranchised whites out there who basically are heavily discriminated against for one reason or another. For example, atheists are heavily discriminated against in the Bible belt. Liberals will often vilify anybody who doesn't agree with their policies. Feminists will put down men any chance they get. It's a mistake to think that it is one group doing it to another. Whites will discriminate and demonize other whites to no end because the one common behavioral trait to ALL white western people is that they think that everybody has to be like them and those that aren't are to be demonized any way they can.
Tricky for me to agree or disagree. I live in a country where atheists are the norm, and feminists don't exist because we didn't need them after about 1980. Our most recent leader (prior to the current incumbent) was an unmarried (living in sin), childless by choice, female atheist who employed an atheist, out lesbian as her highest minister - so you can see my cultural limitations in this regard. Demonisation is the favoured tool of a dominant but outnumbered group. Not much else works as effectively.
FORSOOTH! I THINK I SEE! I'm just being a bit flippant there. I am talking about America in general. And intolerance and discrimination runs rampant here, even thought the media won't really address it. You can find plenty of examples of this on you tube.
Indeed. You guys appear to be about 60 years behind us, in regards to some things. Probs not so much in Alaska though, eh? (I added the 'eh' because of Alaska's proximity to Canadia, eh).
Quaint non sequitur. You're apparently trying to justify selective condemnations for racism against white folks on account of a historical laundry list, which is not only surprising but is standard-issue from the political Left. Trashing the living for the deeds of the dead IS racist behavior, and that need not be explained to you. Or should it be?
LOL. You can find any damn thing you want on youtube. It is wide open to every type of nutter. And when one classifies a group with a broad brush, they run close to the nutters.
Onion News Network is a parody television news show. The show premiered its ten-episode first season on January 21, 2011, at 10:00 p.m. EST on IFC. Wikipedia
Sorry, but I love you tube. While there is a lot of junk on it, there is also a lot of good stuff on it. For example, I love playing Minecraft. But when I first saw it I wasn't impressed and had no interest in it. Then my friend showed me the game and downloaded it for me and I started playing it, but I was having a huge run of bad luck. Then I found you tube videos on it and learned the game better and now I'm absolutely hooked on the game. I also found stuff like television shows and documentaries about black holes and other science topics that i'm interested in. then there's stuff about my favorite sci fi shows, star Trek, and Star Wars with actual TV episodes on there. It's a huge site with millions of videos on there, so aside from copyright infringements, illegal stuff, and porn, your more than likely to find something you're interested in. So I really don't truly understand people's resistance to you tube. Plus, there's a way to make money. If you make videos you can sign up for advertising money on it. Every five thousand likes or so gets you something like five dollars. So can you imagine popular videos that have something akin to 150,000 likes? Sure, there's a lot of crap on there, but you have to wade through a lot of mud to get to that diamond. That's true in all things in life. Women. Men. Books. TV. Food. Education. Friends. lovers. Pets. Plants. Cars. Motorcycles. Places to live. It all follows that metaphor. Most of life is mud.
This is garbage. Most whites have been discriminated against on basis of race. My first taste of it was at the tender age of 6 when the uncle of a couple Latino kids I used to hang out with across the street threw me out of their house because he didn't want any damned white people there. Of course you, like so many on the political left, ignore the dictionary and use the neo-Marxist definition which is that "racism equals prejudice plus power" which is nowhere in any dictionary of the English language on the planet. The question is why are you so hostile to the idea that whites can and are frequently mistreated on account of their racial background? All these whites who are beaten because they're white aren't legitimate examples of it because they have more "stuff" in contrast to the group that is pummeling them in the streets? Indeed this is clearly your view and it's illustrated as such as use of the term, "COMFORTABLE WHITEY."
